1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,479 So one of the questions that we've been looking at in terms of all these cards, 2 00:00:06,489 --> 00:00:07,799 now you know what all the cards are. 3 00:00:07,799 --> 00:00:09,199 You've got good examples of things. 4 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:12,969 We touched on a little bit about moving up and down the control elevator. 5 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:14,859 How do we know? 6 00:00:15,159 --> 00:00:19,749 When we want to actually move up and down. 7 00:00:20,099 --> 00:00:21,389 Repeated offenses. 8 00:00:21,689 --> 00:00:23,289 What is a repeated offense? 9 00:00:23,589 --> 00:00:27,859 People say, oh that was a stick obstruction that was intentional, 10 00:00:27,889 --> 00:00:31,129 and that's what I'm carding as a breakdown foul, but that one was a 11 00:00:31,329 --> 00:00:34,589 body obstruction that was intentional, so that's a different offense. 12 00:00:34,599 --> 00:00:35,179 To me, no. 13 00:00:35,909 --> 00:00:39,709 These are the general categories, and really what you're usually dealing with 14 00:00:40,009 --> 00:00:45,079 Are the breakdown fouls, not sure about danger now, I'm re evaluating what 15 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:47,499 I'm thinking there, breakdown tackles. 16 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:52,539 Misconduct, which includes wasting time, hitting the ball away after 17 00:00:52,539 --> 00:00:56,089 the whistle, taking the ball from the wrong spot, playing a rolling ball 18 00:00:56,089 --> 00:00:57,679 at a free hit, that sort of thing. 19 00:00:57,709 --> 00:00:59,779 Those are areas of misconduct. 20 00:01:00,529 --> 00:01:03,119 Dissent is a very separate area. 21 00:01:03,179 --> 00:01:05,559 And then anything that's under the captain's responsibility. 22 00:01:05,829 --> 00:01:09,819 So controlling substitutions is, quite a big one there. 23 00:01:10,019 --> 00:01:15,789 Or if a captain ends up... being held responsible for the conduct of their 24 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,889 bench, the conduct of their players, their coach, and that sort of thing. 25 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:22,259 If you have that in your local regulations, that's going to be 26 00:01:22,259 --> 00:01:25,969 something that you're going to keep separate from that sort of thing. 27 00:01:26,269 --> 00:01:31,199 You'll also keep in mind that the repetition of the RDI, and 28 00:01:31,199 --> 00:01:35,279 remember we're looking at this repetition, danger, and impact. 29 00:01:35,579 --> 00:01:40,369 So we're looking at The fact that each team has its own repetition scale. 30 00:01:40,669 --> 00:01:46,459 So if this is the first time that team A has broken down the play and it's not 31 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:52,059 dangerous and it's low impact, you can go with a green for them, even if that 32 00:01:52,059 --> 00:01:55,539 has already happened for team B or maybe happened twice for team B and maybe 33 00:01:55,539 --> 00:01:57,369 team B is already on a yellow for that. 34 00:01:57,589 --> 00:02:00,849 You could go with a green for team A. Okay. 35 00:02:01,369 --> 00:02:04,199 Repetition is its own little category there. 36 00:02:04,499 --> 00:02:05,949 Danger stands alone. 37 00:02:06,249 --> 00:02:08,009 It's its own piece. 38 00:02:08,449 --> 00:02:13,729 You simply go by the level of danger and low danger, just because something 39 00:02:13,789 --> 00:02:15,829 has high danger has already happened. 40 00:02:16,549 --> 00:02:17,809 Those are isolated. 41 00:02:17,839 --> 00:02:20,409 And for each team, it's isolated. 42 00:02:21,109 --> 00:02:22,699 JuDge it on its own merits. 43 00:02:22,999 --> 00:02:24,219 And then impact. 44 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:29,029 Is separate for each team, but you got to keep in mind that impact changes over 45 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:30,619 the time and the course of the game. 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,189 So what is low impact in quarter one could be very high impact in 47 00:02:36,189 --> 00:02:38,079 quarter four when the game is tied. 48 00:02:38,379 --> 00:02:43,419 So if you focus on those three elements and how you would move up 49 00:02:43,419 --> 00:02:47,509 and down the ladder in that way, that could help you with sorting that out. 50 00:02:48,339 --> 00:02:50,589 So this is the same clip that we saw earlier. 51 00:02:51,269 --> 00:02:56,979 And this is a really good example of the same team committing a different offense. 52 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,579 One was dangerous, stand, stands alone. 53 00:03:01,509 --> 00:03:04,829 It's a breakdown that was dangerous, takes the yellow card. 54 00:03:05,129 --> 00:03:10,150 And then within the next 30 seconds, the same team commits a misconduct 55 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:15,550 and she hits the ball away after it hits her foot and the whistle 56 00:03:15,550 --> 00:03:19,840 is blown and she keeps playing and somehow insists that she doesn't 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,030 need to take a green card for this. 58 00:03:21,330 --> 00:03:24,630 So that is a nice sort of encapsulation of, 59 00:03:24,750 --> 00:03:27,960 oh, brought down by sharp in field to Craig. 60 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:32,190 Craig, can you find the return pass sharp? 61 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:33,595 Doesn't need to, whistles God. 62 00:03:34,135 --> 00:03:39,090 All he goes here is belts back to Dawson. 63 00:03:39,690 --> 00:03:41,100 Dawson looking for Harvey. 64 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,560 Does well to keep it in play and he gets himself, Ooh, 65 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:45,990 ESADE has to be careful here. 66 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:48,540 He's gonna go to the bench for five. 67 00:03:50,260 --> 00:03:51,520 Has to be a yellow card. 68 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,320 He goes to the bench for 10. 69 00:03:58,677 --> 00:03:59,527 Highly dangerous. 70 00:04:02,413 --> 00:04:03,993 And then seconds later, 71 00:04:06,175 --> 00:04:08,429 we have some more misconduct. 72 00:04:08,429 --> 00:04:13,845 So Tommo stops the play in the middle, because two players are in the circle. 73 00:04:14,145 --> 00:04:17,835 It's sorting out each other's handbags and seeing who we love that have got 74 00:04:18,145 --> 00:04:21,320 that we, he pulls wallet, his keeper. 75 00:04:22,773 --> 00:04:23,163 Okay. 76 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:27,938 So despite the fact that happens immediately after, and you can see 77 00:04:28,058 --> 00:04:32,078 there's one green over Australia, a green over Spain, and a green, and a 78 00:04:32,078 --> 00:04:34,298 yellow over Spain and that sort of thing. 79 00:04:34,298 --> 00:04:35,618 And then we have this, 80 00:04:41,261 --> 00:04:44,990 and now we're moving back into break again. 81 00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:49,740 A danger category, which requires a different kind of foul. 82 00:04:50,530 --> 00:04:53,690 So now we're going up and down the same ladder. 83 00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:05,430 It all flared up in the third quarter yesterday. 84 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:09,690 Okay, so hopefully that gives you an idea of how you can move 85 00:05:09,780 --> 00:05:11,920 up and down and up and down. 86 00:05:12,850 --> 00:05:16,280 Often, danger is the distinguishing aspect. 87 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:22,470 Danger is, because it stands alone, it's there, it's not there, it's okay. 88 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:27,360 And the misconduct things, because they're quite separate, 89 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:28,850 they stand on their own as well. 90 00:05:29,150 --> 00:05:30,780 See a couple comments here. 91 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,030 Rachel, yes, players sometimes think that dissent involves bad language, 92 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,990 but VD clearly showed it in the all. 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,160 Yeah, and we talked about this in the server recently, about how a 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,380 player can demonstrate dissent, and that has a negative effect 95 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,660 on the integrity of the game. 96 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,840 Not on your ego, it's not about your feelings, but the integrity of the 97 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:55,740 game is threatened because this player is yelling, throwing their stick, 98 00:05:55,940 --> 00:06:00,510 showing everybody how little they approve of what has just occurred. 99 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:06,050 And that needs to be addressed, because it's important for you to 100 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:08,420 keep the game safe for everybody. 101 00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:13,040 And safe play requires respect for the rules of the game and the people 102 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,770 who are charged with employing them. 103 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:19,280 One of the other challenges about moving up and down the elevator 104 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:24,180 is what you do when the same player repeatedly takes cards. 105 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:29,720 And so an infraction that might only be worth a green card because it is low 106 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:37,370 impact and is not dangerous and hasn't been repeated by the rest of the team. 107 00:06:37,380 --> 00:06:41,830 When the same player does something perhaps that's all impact, but a 108 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:43,760 different foul at a different time. 109 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,900 It's difficult to know sometimes what to do. 110 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:51,700 I think most of us, when it comes to the idea of giving the same player 111 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:53,040 a green card, we're very clear. 112 00:06:53,610 --> 00:06:55,880 No player should ever receive two green cards. 113 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,600 And... Why we get ourselves twisted into a knot when it comes to 114 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,890 giving two yellow cards to the same player is a bit of a mystery to me. 115 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:08,640 This is how I break it down from the factors that we looked at before 116 00:07:08,770 --> 00:07:12,060 that separate the repetition aspect. 117 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:17,260 To me, breakdown, danger, misconduct are all in the same category. 118 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:22,650 Dissent would be argued to be... A little bit separate, and that's why shrug emoji. 119 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:27,490 That may be a time where a player has taken a yellow for 120 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,770 a breakdown foul, and then... 121 00:07:29,770 --> 00:07:32,920 picks a yellow for dissent, and you might consider that to be 122 00:07:33,090 --> 00:07:34,900 sufficiently two different offenses. 123 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,210 You're going to want to take some guidance from your local association for that. 124 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:42,530 However, remember what I said about red cards a couple of units ago. 125 00:07:42,910 --> 00:07:47,420 This is a player who has shown with their behavior that they should not 126 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:49,450 be a continued part of this game. 127 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:54,800 They can't be trusted to play in a manner that respects the safety of their 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,410 opposition, that respects the integrity of the game, and they've done so now. 129 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:06,420 Twice, in the same game, to a serious enough degree, I don't understand why 130 00:08:06,430 --> 00:08:11,710 we would have any difficulty giving that player a red card, and removing them from 131 00:08:11,710 --> 00:08:16,580 the game, for the safety and the integrity and the fairness to everybody else. 132 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,290 On the pitch and everybody watching that game. 133 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,490 The exception here truly is the captain's responsibility. 134 00:08:24,530 --> 00:08:29,720 So when a captain has to take a card because of a too many players 135 00:08:29,750 --> 00:08:33,800 on the pitch, for example, improper substitutions, that sort of thing, 136 00:08:34,150 --> 00:08:39,550 that definitely should be kept separate from something like a breakdown foul. 137 00:08:39,930 --> 00:08:43,530 Because they are, in essence, just taking that one for the team and 138 00:08:43,570 --> 00:08:47,240 their role as a captain is very different than their role as a player. 139 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:51,750 Let me show you an example of when two yellow cards were given 140 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:53,970 that were upgraded to the red. 141 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,340 And this is described in some jurisdictions as a technical red. 142 00:08:58,910 --> 00:09:03,170 So what you did, player, in taking that second yellow card, wasn't a 143 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:05,580 straight red card worthy offense. 144 00:09:06,010 --> 00:09:08,235 It was simply another yellow card. 145 00:09:09,081 --> 00:09:12,961 But that is going to get upgraded to a red card. 146 00:09:13,171 --> 00:09:19,391 So you show the yellow and then that gets recorded on the match sheet as a red card. 147 00:09:19,701 --> 00:09:24,911 Not a yellow and a red, just simply here's the yellow, but it actually means red. 148 00:09:25,585 --> 00:09:27,785 This was EHL a couple of years ago. 149 00:09:32,275 --> 00:09:34,245 This is the first yellow card offense. 150 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:39,955 by number 14, and then later on in Q4. 151 00:09:40,015 --> 00:09:41,425 There's a turnover of the ball. 152 00:09:41,955 --> 00:09:43,555 Always thinking up. 153 00:09:44,775 --> 00:09:45,415 Lovely, yeah. 154 00:09:45,825 --> 00:09:46,365 Elimination. 155 00:09:47,615 --> 00:09:49,013 Oviedo is taken down. 156 00:09:49,013 --> 00:09:51,115 Sophie Elias again. 157 00:09:53,915 --> 00:09:55,025 Her second yellow. 158 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,599 Which means it's a red. 159 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,050 What's interesting to me as well, as I watch this entire game, which is something 160 00:10:05,050 --> 00:10:07,760 that you should always do when you have the opportunity when you see a red card 161 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,390 come out, is look at the whole game. 162 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:15,860 Because, as I mentioned in that last unit, that red cards 163 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:17,450 don't just come from nowhere. 164 00:10:17,865 --> 00:10:24,825 Usually, when a player has repeated such a dangerous physical tackle, 165 00:10:24,835 --> 00:10:28,395 like you see there, maybe something happened before, and here's evidence 166 00:10:28,445 --> 00:10:30,225 of that something happening before. 167 00:10:30,255 --> 00:10:31,175 This is in Q2. 168 00:10:35,225 --> 00:10:39,945 A little whistle given, the umpire says over the radio, nothing more, but 169 00:10:44,005 --> 00:10:47,025 the defender, after missing the tackle, absolutely moves their hips. 170 00:10:48,070 --> 00:10:54,410 into the way of the attacking player, and that creates the physical foul that 171 00:10:54,410 --> 00:10:58,350 takes the attacker to ground and breaks down the play in that earlier instance. 172 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,325 The fact that this player... Went ahead and committed another 173 00:11:03,685 --> 00:11:07,375 physical, dangerous breakdown, and then another physical breakdown. 174 00:11:07,785 --> 00:11:12,855 Really, three times in this game isn't really a surprise, and that's why you 175 00:11:12,865 --> 00:11:18,775 shouldn't feel guilty about, Oh, I'm gonna have to take this player out of the game. 176 00:11:19,395 --> 00:11:23,575 They have forfeited their right to be on that pitch because they're 177 00:11:23,575 --> 00:11:26,425 not playing with sufficient regard to their opposition.