Live Q&A #WhatUpWednesday Ep. 114

📅 Mar 29 19.00 GMT
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We'll squint at a fuzzy video of a sliding attacker on a goal and then a goalkeeper slide on an attacker (because we like to be fair). Then there's that Secret Coach article that has everyone abuzz on umpire abuse, safety vs. flow with a head injury, and the thorny issue of the terribly-named “suicide runner”.

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⏱ Chapter Markers:
00:00 Chair Dancing!
02:30 The Reluctant Umpire: Jaco Botha
48:17 1. EHCO Trophy
53:06 2. KZ Pinoke GK Tackle
01:12:37 3. Penalty Corner 1st Shot Hit At Height
01:21:46 4. Aerial Interception Fail
01:30:29 5. This Tackle Tho

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What up Wednesday, friends, Keely, Dunn, FH FHumpires. You're the third team. And how we're getting ready. We are getting ready for the big show, the E H C O, the show. The E H C O. Yeah. We're gonna figure something out. Really fun with that. And I am taking off in. Mm. Uh, 24, 27. About about 30, 32 hours, something like that.

So it's on like Donkey Kong, it's in there, like swimwear. This is happening. I'm a little bit, yes. Things, things have been crazy getting ready, but here we are. I have a variety of fun topics to go through today. It's, it's a little bit of a different show, mostly because I'm really angry right now, so this is what I'm angry about.

I'm gonna be, well, I'm not super angry about that, but, oh, I'm really angry that I missed out on my second topic, which is the secret. Oh, are you serious? None of them. None of them are there. I'm talking about the Secret Coach article. Second, we're gonna talk about a goalkeeper sliding tackle from inside hockey.

After that, we are gonna talk about when to stop for a head injury. I'm gonna do a little quick review of the Indoor Can-AM series, which I umpire managed at two weekends ago now, but things were way too busy last week to talk about it and I was still like processing. So, and then we're gonna talk about breakdown PC running, which is very poorly called suicide running.

We'll get into all that, uh, later. And then we have some stick Wife shit. How's re YouTube if you get me for that? I'm sorry. It's a term of art. You cannot demonetize me for a term of art. I, it's not my word. It's what the, the British people say. So you can't blame me for that. Uh, let's just see. Make sure that I'm alive.

I think everything's working okay. Hi. Um, let's see, Ian, um, am I in London for, let's see. I should really bring comments up on screen that's a lot more helpful for you all. Instead of me just reading off YouTube comments and me actions. There it is. There we go. Godders is here. That's exciting. He's showing up because he's getting ready.

Amsterdam, Kia Ora, Steffan, good to, good to have you. Um, thank you Hendrick. Always appreciate you monitoring me for accuracy and correctness in the goalkeeper. Vitz, thank you for showing up. There you go. And there you go. Uh, yes, the Flinstone cottage is in the house. Let's go. Let's go. Oh boo. I'm sorry to hear you're feeling badly.

I feel like total pants as well. So, hey, I hope I used the word pants correctly in that sentence. Uh, fly by yellow now you'll be back in 20 minutes. Okay. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Oh, Milford. It's so sad when I start out with this bad news that you're not gonna be around, but okay. Yes. But you will be there.

And thank you Rachel. I do look fabulous. You gotta look fabulous. And hopefully it'll make you feel fab. Fabulous. That's there. And you know you're not ready. I am not ready either. Luke. Very not ready. Good to see you, Scott. There you go. Um,

do I have to buy Gideon? Do I have to buy the fh vampires.com domain name and redirect it? Is that in the common misspelling that I It shouldn't, the, the, you and the V are very far apart on the keyboard. How did that happen? I just wanna know. Oh, Ian, so am I in London at all? Yes. Um, Monday the fourth.

Let's talk. Okay. I'm just gonna throw that out there and we're just gonna keep it like vague London cuz I wouldn't want like all of the people out there to be like, oh my god, Keely and I'll rush to the same place. Can't tell you what my itinerary is. Apparently personal security is very important. Jenny.

Hi. I'm live at a time. A little better. Yes. We are here now for the summer. At least the summer for us. Winter for you. Yes. So there we go. Hi Tegan. First time. Hi. Also love your name. Uh, I just wanted to throw that out there. My music teacher when I was a kid, named her daughter Tegan. And I always love the name very warm.

Welcome. Also Tegan and Sarah. Very, very famous musicians from Calgary. There you go. Um, yes. And you missed the start. Okay, well you know what it is. That's why we have a start. So that. So that you don't miss anything important. And also my topics thing was completely unfinished. Fun. Before we get going, I would like to announce the following announcement.

Mr. Rob McGregor only went and got his level one assessment successfully completed. Sam Ray Pizza, we doff our chapos in your general direction. Uh, he's always around the server and making sure to stick his nose in where it belongs and give us lots of comments and, and feedback and questions. And he's just a lovely person to have in the community.

So, Rob, congratulations. It is just fantastic that you got that done. So there you are. Let's get into the content friends. Okay, let's see if any of this is. Gonna work properly. Let's find out. We're gonna start off with the Bucks sliding, goal Bucks big Wednesday. This is the quality of the video we have.

We've got a cracking set of games. Today is Nottingham Press. Can they get in? Wow. Nottingham not to have won it at the death.

And this is the Slowmo. Zoomed in maybe two 40 p replay of all the things. Okay, so the goal was scored on this play, and we have some things we can talk about if cats here and you can add a poll. I'll find out very quickly if that is a possibility for you. Um, we are looking for,

We are looking for, whether it's a goal, is it a goal and a yellow card? Is it a free hit defense and a yellow card? And we're just not gonna get into the five or 10 in the poll part because then we have five options and that can't be done. Does another option need to be just a free hit defense and nothing else?

Yeah, probably That needs to be something. So if you're here, great. If you're not, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll find out. Cat, are you here? Say something in the comments. I know you sent me a dm, but come on, look, look at me. I am a hot mess of stress. I'm a hot stress mess and I don't even know where my head is at.

Okay.

Yes, and well done Rob. Thank you. I would like to hear that story too actually, Steffan, that's a great point. Please. Let's find out inquiring minds. Want to know the Badgers? Looking forward to it as well. Says Godders about the tour, because guess what Her dear shirt says her tour. Short shirt. I can't, I can't whisper and say tour shirt at the same time.

Tour shirt. It's a total surprise. Nobody's ever gonna guess what it says on the back.

And yes, congratulations. Okay, it looks like I am on my own. So let me do this.

I've forgotten where it is. Oh, here.

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Talk amongst yourselves. Oh, it's really quiet because I don't have my music going there. That'll get better very shortly, but it sneaks up on you. It's kind of like a taper in

add option. And then Free Hit Defense. And free hit defense and yellow card.

Yeah, I can only put four options, so that does restrict us, but that's all we can do. Alright, so let's talk about what we're looking at here. And I think part of it is that.

We're gonna have trouble. And the thing that made me angry about this clip is that we're gonna have trouble figuring out exactly what happened because of the fact that the sun is setting and there's insufficient light on the pitch for, uh, broadcasting that the angle is terrible. There's a ton of traffic moving, the frame rate is low and yeah, it's just, it's just a nightmare.

Right. So just making sure everybody's still here. Okay. Okay. I'm like, where's all the comments happening? We have some. So this was sent over to me with the question about the attacker slide. And are we concerned about this being an issue about, you know, is this, should this be taken under the briefing, for example, about sliding tackles, even though for review, I don't believe this is a tackle.

I don't believe it's automatically caught under the briefing if it were determined that it is a s There's a lot of things in here to look at,

and what I wanna sort of point out as we look at this slide, and I warm up my pencil here, my video pencil,

it's not gonna work the first time around. It never does. There it is. Okay. It's difficult to see everything that's happening, but what I wanna do is sort of develop two scenarios because it's, what's isn't important is exactly what happened here, but how are we gonna apply the principles when this happens in our games?

Okay. That's always, that's always the case.

I'm looking at this, uh, let's see. You're saying it looks like the attacker loses his footing and slides into his defender. Okay. And Rob very unfortunately, had to do his men's once games in order to get his rating. But there you go. For Simon, the attacker appears to come in behind number 10, yellow and take him out while scoring number 10 is back to the slider.

But the slider can see him clearly. So danger caused by slider. You don't like that? He's leading with his feet first in the slide. I mean, that's not the only thing to think about, and I'm, I mean, what I want you to do when you have that, I don't like this, I want you to take the like and the feeling out of it and think about what principle does this invoke for me that players are less likely to be trying to play the ball if they're sliding with their feet forward.

That could be a principle. And so the recklessness of that action, it speaks to that. But is that necessarily true? I'm not saying that, but what I want you to do is to get away from, oh, I just don't like that. It's like, why don't you like it? Why? Why? We're gonna ask why, so that we can boil down to a principle that we can apply in future situations.

Really, really, I. Um, Denman basically, but voted so. Congratulations. That's terrific. Uh, Mr. Eggleton, you think the attacker slid into clear space and the defender moved into a slide? That's absolutely another take on it. Reading what we are trying to see here in this, and for Jenny, no tackle, possibly danger to self goal.

Okay. And, and what I, what I want to make sure that I parse out, and I, I try to be very specific about this when I talk about my objection to the briefing, and again, this isn't like, we've had some conversations in the last couple days about feelings and consensus and things like that, and. I don't like that the briefing leads us to apply what is, for me, an unprincipled approach to danger in sliding tackle situations.

If we apply it word for word as it's written because defend or attackers can't tackle because they're not trying to dispossess a defender from the ball because that is, uh, is it an oxymoron or just a factual impossibility? I don't know. Somebody tell me in the comments if that's, if that logical logics.

I don't know. And then, and then, and the reason that I don't like that is that the set of circumstances around a defender, making a slide and trying to dispossess a ball carrying attacker who's looking down the ball and trying to do awesome things with it, who can't defend themselves against something that they often cannot see or are distracted from seeing.

It is very different from an attacker who is sliding towards a defender. Could be very different because a defender could see that action be able to protect themselves. Maybe the ball's not even involved. They have much better vision. It can often be much less dangerous, but it sometimes it can be just as dangerous.

And so the absolute rule, which isn't a rule, it's a guidance that people are replying, can lead you to what I think is an unprincipled approach. It doesn't reflect what we're trying to hammer out, which is people behaving recklessly and dangerously and entering their opponents when they're in vulnerable positions.

Like that's really what the whole rule is trying to get at about. Danger is opponent is vulnerable, don't be a dick. Okay, that's, that's it. So, When we have an attacker as we do in this situation, trying to in an absolute, just scintillating, exciting, desperate 30, 40 seconds left in the game moment, get his stick on a rebounding ball.

And if you have been running palm as that attacker did, and Steffan, I'm getting back to your point. If you're running palm as that attacker did and trying to get there and then you realize, oh, I'm overrunning this, you might slide in order to get your stick out behind you so that you can still make contact with the ball.

It's really hard to see exactly what he's doing here and he's not really going face first or even feet first. He's actually kind of sliding like parallel like this. Really, when you look at it, let's see if I can, um, If we can sort of boil into this, boil into this, why is I, am I even English today? I don't know.

Let's Sr comments as I'm doing this. Um,

so, hi Anthony. Good to see you. It's been a while. Uh, attacker made contact with the ball first before making contact with the defender. That's a statement of fact. How is that relevant? Do we apply? Do we only interpret something as being dangerous if contact wasn't made with the ball first? Not in our sport.

Okay. Danger is, is danger and, and whether the ball is made contact with doesn't necessarily make something not dangerous. It is something that we add into the consideration only because it changes very potentially what angles the players are moving at and whether the action of going to ground was reckless or not in that situation, or is it something that you could have expected.

Okay, so I hear your point, but I want you to boil that down to how we actually apply dangerous play in our sport. And it's not football. So we do not have a rule that as long as you make contact the ball first, you can do whatever you want. Not in our game. Okay? That's sports ball, not ours. Okay? So if we're Gideon, the slides from behind the defender, which brings them to ground, they aren't in any position to see it coming high danger, but that would've ha happened without the attacker.

Slipping. Okay, so I'm going to get this off the screen so that I can rewind this. Now, when you say that the, the defender that gets taken down is coming from behind, I don't think that's the case. It's really hard to see, but here, white here is the defender who's getting taken down. Okay. And they're actually, they've been traveling in this direction.

Come on Arrow. You can do it. You can do it. Just get the there. So there's, there's a, there's a set of defenders sort of, that have been chasing and meandering this way. But this is the defender who goes down. Okay. And when we scroll back just a little bit in this timeline, and I'm sorry, it's dark. It's terrible video.

It frustrates me. All the hell. All right, this is the frame. Okay, so this is the defender who's going down. He's actually reaching out for that ball, trying to clear it from the line. He's putting himself down in a lower position, but he's not in the space where the ball is. So this sliding attacker is coming this way, and he's actually sliding into what is space at the time that he's made his decision.

And well into the trajectories of his slide the way that I see it.

Which means that we have a situation where as this progresses, and look, you can see this defender already is a little bit, you know, they've got one knee down. They're already really, really low. Looks like they're, they were gonna be diving and, and tumbling. From this angle though, it's really hard for us to see just how far they're reaching.

So are they, are they reaching, you know, at full stretch or is the ball closer to them? Don't really know because angles

and, let's see. Um, Michael, you got a few here. Okay. It looks like y your comments got outta order, but, so Michael, you think the attacker slide is deliberate? Yes. They, they were in full control of their body. I think they knew exactly what they were doing. This wasn't a, an accidental slip or they didn't trip on the turf or they didn't trip over somebody's foot.

They made the decision to go to ground. So they're responsible for the outcome. I agree to that first point. And also intending to play the ball. Okay. It looks like potentially the attacker sliding line didn't intersect with anyone at the point at which they started the slide. And I, I tend to agree with that as best as we can see, but Clear was very much into space that was gonna contain other players in the near future.

Okay. And that's, that's kind of difficult, right. Are they responsible for the safety of players that may be coming into that area? And what does that create the right kind of onus do we think, on a player? Because, because what, what I really, again, the reason I went through my whole diatribe about defenders versus attackers sliding is that it's the vulnerability issue.

So if you're sliding into a space that nobody's in there yet, who is vulnerable in that moment, who can't defend themselves, who can't see that coming, and as I mentioned several times when we talk about sliding tackles, is that player who's in full awareness and can see a player sliding towards them, and then they step into that contact because they're trying to perhaps encourage Yellow Card to be brought out a 10 minute yellow card is a massive penalty.

And it could be team penalties and you know, getting upgraded and things like that. Then we have a whole new sort of, we, we have another set of information from a hockey player's perspective as to how they look at what real danger is and would they consider this real danger, like, I don't mean like the Loughborough defenders in this particular situation.

I think generally would players say that that attacker should not be sliding there because he's sliding into a space that another defender might be trying to reach? Because the ball's going there if you, how tenuous that argument. It's not just a face that I was making, I don't think. It's a very strong argument period.

Let's see what you guys have as. Henry,

sir. Good to see you. Get to more streams and get in the server. Okay? Hi, uh, for you, the attacker delivery slides into space. Okay? And defender behind also slides and takes out their own player, maybe. Okay. For you it's the contact. Um, gotta bring that up again. 20 seconds isn't enough. The contact with the sliding attacker on the keeper.

That's the issue. Okay. The keeper does come into the picture a little bit later, so let's have a, have a, we looking at what the keeper is doing. Good point. Get outta my kitchen. Let's slide to here. Okay. Let's see where, okay, so. Let's get back. This is about the point at which we've got the attacker starting their slide.

Okay. So they've made their decision, they're sliding, they're coming this way. The goalkeeper is over there. Okay? So they're even further away. They attempted to play the, the, the pass or intercept the pass, or they were guarding their post whatever, whatever goalkeepers do. I'm not the boss of them, but they were over on this left post here, okay?

And then after that player is sliding,

they do that goalkeeper thing and dive across onto the ground. Are they more entitled to dive into an empty space? Or a space that's unoccupied at the time in order to save the ball, then an attacker is entitled to slide into at that moment.

Okay. Uh, Jenny slides so fast that it could impact the defender. So position would determine if others were in danger. Leading with the fee can cause danger with other players. Yeah, I, I know. Okay. Also, the defender may not be able to tackle as the body shields them unfairly. Um, but a, a a, a sliding tackle headfirst can be dangerous as well.

Very dangerous because it's the body of the player that takes out, and it's the body contact on a running attacker, down a sideline, their stick that's laid out, their arms can trip them, their head, their shoulders, their, like, everything. I, sorry, I, I, I'm trying to get to the logic of the arguments that's so important for us.

Because if we're gonna explain these decisions in a way that convinces players and coaches and fans that we're not on drugs, we have to have solid logic behind us. And I'm still searching for it here. Hi Nick. And you see what I mean? Okay, good. The feeder out to the side, towards the baseline. Okay. And that's, that's another good point there.

So for Henry, what he's seeing is this, um, let's see if I can pull it back. Don't be a, Ooh. Okay. So yeah, you can see quite a bit there. There's the feet. So actually his feet are well out of the way. If you think, if you think the feet are the problem, they're probably close to the end line, if not off the end line in this moment.

Okay. I'm gonna go a little bit more. Okay, goalkeeper, sliding tackles re ball. First to the ball, first comment. Um, yeah, let's deal with the Simon repost this question for me when we get to number three, cuz then we're actually talking about a goalkeeper slide. Okay. Ah, okay, cool. And when I watched this in real time and for the first little bit, I was like, oh wow, 10 minute easy.

And the only question I was looking at was whether I would consider the action of the attacker disadvantageous enough to the defenders that that is what allowed them to ca score the goal. Or if it was simply a standalone personal penalty, the goal had already been scored, the dangers then in the slide.

It's a really tough little line to draw though, because the slide is what allowed them to score the goal. So, but for the slide, they wouldn't have had the advantage of being able to, not eh, language, but for the slide they would not have scored the goal, therefore

they shouldn't reap the reward of that, of that action. Oops, let me keep playing it. So for Jamal, the defender heads to the attacker's path and he even, even turned his head to see the shot. Okay. Um, Matt, is it relevant, the slide, the slide is into space. At the point they started to slide, hockey's a dynamic game and situations changed, the attacker needs to be in control to react to the changing situation.

Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's the question that I'm asking. I'm trying to, to figure that out. Um. And I think if we put the standards so high that an attacker has to be in control, that there's no possibility that the space that they are sliding into could later be occupied by a defender who can see everything that's happening and decides to go to try to occupy that same space.

I have a problem with that. I think that's too, uh, too high of a bar and I don't think that's fair to attackers. And I don't think, says the defender, I don't think that that creates the kind of hockey that we really need. If we impart responsibility for safety on not just opponents, but on the self of the player and that they shouldn't be posi putting them themselves in positions where they could get hit with the ball when they don't have the privilege of using goalkeeper equipment that they shouldn't run up behind players who are about to take a shot and then claim that they have, you know, Claim, dangerous play because of, you know, the injury that an attacker who doesn't know that they're there, then inflicts on them with that backswing.

Like there's, I know that's not a, you know, apples to apples, but I'm drawing some little comparisons of other ways that we impart responsibility on to the defenders

and, and this is very true. Yep. I, I agree with this, Steffan, once they commit to the slide, they can't control where they go. So the question is, are they, should they be held responsible for everything that happens? Like anything that could happen or there's some things that they aren't responsible for.

Like a defender who is also reaching out, stretching isn't in the right position, trying in desperation to clear the ball off the line and is already off balance. And yes, they get, they get taken out for lack of any other other word. And yeah, we're all saying hi to Matt Harrison. Hi. Um, let's see, let's see.

Do, do, do, do. Oh boy. You and me both Steffan, you and me both. And, uh, Denman talking about goalkeepers entitled to go. Um, yep. And that's, that's an interesting point. So I did edit out what happened afterwards, which is we don't, obviously we're not gonna hear on audio if they have a conversation, but the, the supporting umpire in this situation, as the cameras pan, you can see them emphatically supporting the goal decision and making a goal signal to support their colleagues.

So they were in agreement, um, for whatever reason. Uh, so the point is, Stijn is the point whether players sliding into clear space need to be aware of danger in the area later. Yeah, that's, that's what we're wrestling with.

Oh, okay. I, I see Simon thinking about the rebel irrelevance, did the sliding attacker score the goal? Probably. I don't know. Look at that fit here. I just Okay. But we're gonna assume that sliding attacker scored the goal for the purposes of our principle-based discussion. Wow, that's a good point. Also, 46 of you.

Hi, nice to see you. Um, advantage watchers. Yeah. Yeah. Who? Come on like button clickers. We need you go raw team. And Matt, the longer the slide, the more situation can change. The longer the slide, the greater the energy. The greater the danger. Good point. How long is the slide? Uh, it's not that long on his feet, on his feet, on his feet, on his feet slides.

He's not in full contact with the ground there, but he's there. Okay, so this, this is the distance of the slide. Now we're probably, we're probably actually pretty square on to the angle of his, so it looks like a good five meters, maybe six. Is that a long slide? Do we consider that alongside He's going at pace.

He's absolutely trucking it.

Okay. Good points. Good points.

And this is one of the reasons why Matt and I have been doing this a long time together as friends is exploring, trying to get the reasoning out. For these situations, Eggleton, uh, it's actually quite hard to see the attacker. Yeah. Made contact with the defender or two defenders came together. Yeah. It's a little bit of a mix there, but we're gonna again, just to sort of really try to work through this scenario because that's where the real doubt comes in.

Uh, 1237. Okay. Just gonna give another minute. We, I don't think we can expect players to predict the future, just like we only blow if something actually happens, not as soon as we think it will. Um, at the same time, you don't think it'd be reasonable to say defenders aware of sliding in. Attackers should have to stay back as, they should have a rate to defend.

Good point. And finally, defenders have to keep five meters when opponents are receiving aerials. Meaning that they're responsible to keep things safe, even if it hinders their defending opportunities. So you're contrasting that with the aerial reception situation. Um, and I guess the distinction that you would draw there is that there's a specific rule in place.

That encourages that skill to develop. So the whole five meter aerial reception thing was in the rule book so that players could safely develop this skill that was decided to be attractive and beneficial to the game. And the only way we can do this, friends is if we make sure that people aren't taking each other's heads off.

And the way we're gonna inform the hockey community and build that sense and that knowledge that this is how you play, is to put it very strictly in the rules. Very, very strictly and clearly. And then, and I don't know if they had this as a long term plan, they being a nebulous idea of a person being a collective, did they know that they were gonna start relaxing the rule as people understood the principle and the idea and the spirit behind it, and that infused throughout the hockey community?

Or if they just realized accidentally, organically as time has gone on that they can, I dunno. Those are really good points, Scott. I appreciate that very much. Um, we set that high bar. Yeah. For sliding defenders. They're going into the space. The attacker will soon enter, but they mustn't make contact and bring attacker to ground.

Yeah. Um, and I guess part of that is because the immediacy is even,

okay, how do I, how do I explain this properly or deal with it? I think there's, there's a distinction that we can draw though in that again, attackers are carrying a ball and they're doing, they are the actors that are determining what is happening with a play. Whereas a defender is trying to dispossess that player of the ball.

In this situation, a defender. The defender here does not have possession of the ball. They are reacting to what's happening by an attacker who's trying to gain the ball. There's, there's a, there's a, a, a difference of responsibility, not responsibility. I'm not gonna explain this very well, so gimme another couple minutes.

It's a really, it's a, it's an important point I wanna deal with, but I'm, I can tell I'm lacking the verbal acuity to deal with it properly. I hope somebody else chimes in and tells me what I'm supposed to say. James Barnes. The issue in this scenario is the defenders legitimately attempt to stop the goal as the keepers outta the way and isn't looking in the direction of the sliding attacker.

Okay. Okay. You may pose the question, Nick. Eva, if this happened another part of the pitch, would we judge the slide differently? I think if you slide, you're creating the opportunity for danger as per nine 13 guide. It's a good point as well.

Uh, the defender and the goalkeeper created the danger goal. I, no, I don't think that's, that's gonna work in that situation. Uh, Gary, so when an attacker comes sliding in that fast, how do you defend against it? Mm And you get to the ball first. You get to the ball first, and you see them coming and you can adjust.

You can like not,

I don't know. It's, it's, it's very, very particular for the situation. I can't really tell you. But that's another thing is that if an attacker's on the ground and I can see them coming, I know exactly where they're going cuz they can't change their direction. And that's another thing. It's like I can do something different, not necessarily just to protect myself, but also to gain an advantage because, Like if I see them coming sliding and here's the ball, I'll be like, boop, I will put it on their body.

Not hard. I'm not a monster. I was in my twenties, but I'm not like that anymore.

Yeah. We don't have a specific rule for slides, even though people talk about this as a rule, it's a guidance, it's a briefing and it's a guidance and in that s that spirit, we need to talk about it. Uh, tug sim. Hello? If I said that right, welcome. If I said it wrong, sorry, the vi is fuzzy, but you can see him playing the ball in.

So it looks like the sliders are scoring sliding away from perpendicular to the other players. I mean, I think that with our player's spirit on, we're looking in that and going, that's just a really close but good, exciting play of hockey. Because for me, I feel like he's sliding into space. Let's, um, um, does le see that as great play?

I don't know. I don't know what their reactions were. I mean, we, we can't really tell. It could have been that the controlling umpire got swarmed and there could have been a protest after the game and refusal to share beer after. I don't know. Uh, we don't really know that just because we, we see the camera focusing on the reaction of the, the attacking team.

You know, it's, it's, it's hard to say, um, if we have to ensure the safety val players, regardless of whether danger was to sell for the others, it does have to be addressed. Um, so the slide has to be deemed dangerous or not? It's not that, no. It's, it's not that the, we're penalizing the attacker for creating danger to their self.

In this case, it's whether, you know, they are creating a danger. Potentially to an opposing player after the ball goes in the goal and this takeout that you see right here in this moment, that is danger to another player. So when a player has fallen on the ground and the ball is around them, it could be like they have put themselves in a situation where an opponent could cause them Dana danger inadvertently.

Those are two very distinct situations, and so let's not get confused on those two things. Let's end this poll and see if we can get to a complete

declaration of ambiguity.

That's from the last time I was like, I was really convenient that my screenshot was already there. It wasn't. That was the last time. Oh, there we go. So 43% wanna call the goal off and give the yellow card, 40% say good goal as it was stood. So that's half and half. But then there's another 12% who would give the yellow card as well as the goal.

So that means that 55% of you see a yellow card in that situation. And I assume for me, if we're deeming that to be full pace, that dangerous,

you know? Yeah. We're probably still looking at a, at a, at a 10 and 3% of you would've just given the free hit defense. Yeah. I put those little sucker questions in there to see or sucker options, but there you go. Um, let's see, is that, that's probably Canadian trucking It. Uh, surely the speed comes into it as it created the danger since he slides.

And so he didn't slide from that far out though. It's not like he slid from 10 meters away. He slid from like five. That's not very far. He was, the reason he was coming at such pace is that he was still on his feet and he was still accelerating with everything he had in order to get in a position where he could actually get down on the ground where he was most likely to be able to make legal contact with a ball with a stick.

And uh, I'm just gonna call you a tug. Can I call you tug? I think you're underestimate the danger of that poor post. No, nobody empathizes with maligned uprights, but I appreciate you extending that. Okay.

And he also, yeah, he also likely had to change direction. Jamal, I'm there. Um, and poor post. This is gonna be like restarting with a bully. So to wrap up that conversation as best I can is that I can't wrap up that conversation. We don't have a very good picture and that's why it's so frustrating. And so many of you ask me, Keely, why do you keep putting up Pro League clips?

You know, that's not relevant to my games and that I don't see those levels of skill. And I'm like, I don't care. It's not about the levels of skill, it's about understanding the logical process that you have to apply in order to make accurate decisions on the pitch. So the facts are never gonna be the same, but the principles will always be the same.

It's how you apply those principles to the differing set of facts that are in front of you. It's legal interpretation anyway, so I show high level clips all the time because we often get better angles, we get different angles, we get better resolution sometimes, you know, slow-mo the whole thing. It's, it's difficult for us.

But I guess that's part of the point, is that, look, it really doesn't matter exactly what happened here, exactly what the umpires decide in. That doesn't matter. We are doing the work and going through the exercise of thinking through the principles. And that's what I really wanna emphasize here, Scott, can it be a goal in a yellow card if it's the same incident, if there's a card, they've done something wrong, so it can't be a goal, but if it's a goal, then they must have been innocent.

Not always. It depends. If you can separate the danger from the, the, the, you know, the, the team award that happens before that, it's like a misconduct that can happen after a penalty corner is awarded or a penalty stroke or free hit. And the team who gets the benefit of the team penalty or the team decision can still be carded for doing something dangerous and stupid.

You know? But for that, this is one of those situations that's very difficult. It's very tenuous. To make that, because the slide is the action that allows the goal to be scored. So I acknowledge your point, Scott, and that just is another aspect in there, but people have to think through that themselves and think through whether they can award that goal at the same time.

Okay. Um, thank you very much for all of your thoughts and your confusions. I am confused myself. Let's go into our next scenario, our next topic, the Hockey Coach's Secret, the Secret Coach.

So, uh, Twitter, all abuzz about this and Facebook about this article that was published in a publication that doesn't even let people put their names to their work. Are they getting paid for this? Probably not.

Angers. Angers. So, uh, just a few highlights from this that I thought was very interesting. And the article is from a coaching perspective about, um, the commentary, the level of commentary towards the umpires. Okay? And this coach admits that they were abusive in the past. That's the kind of person that they were towards the umpires.

And he, as a player coming up, thought that he was entitled to make whatever comments he wanted, but now he's horrified and he particularly points out the rude, sexist, and at times, It was personal, rude and sexist at times. And it has no place in society, not even just in hockey. Okay. Um, he addresses accusations of bias and cheating.

So that's nice. And if we have no change, where are we going to end up? And I love this one, one of my best friends is a world renowned umpire.

I I just, I just love that comment cuz we, we hear it in other situations where there are isms involved. Like, are you umpires? I can't be umpires. I have an umpires, a best friend. What do you mean? Okay. And. Talks about how at a tournament that this umpire had been at, that they felt, uh, that they, they got into a real dispute with a coach because the coach felt that a PC should have been awarded, um, for a reason that doesn't exist under the rules.

And can you imagine an international coach not knowing the rules? Just imagine that.

I don't imagine that friend. I see it every freaking week.

We're almost at the rant of the week. Not even quite though. I'm warming up. So this coach announces I'm taking a vow of silence now in the games that I coach and that the attitude that my team likes it when I get after the umpires. And this is good, you know, just doesn't, doesn't wash with this person anymore.

Think about that advice for a moment. It's not fun. It's not fun for anybody. And time for a code of silence in the sideline, in the stands.

I know, I know. Why So bitter Keely. Why so mad? Maybe it's cuz I'm old and I've seen these kind of articles over and over and over again. They're almost as common as the articles where, uh, olds like me to cry. How lazy and disrespectful and sweary the youth of today are. They've been happening forever. And you know what?

We don't see change. So I am not interested in any other person. I don't care who you are, I don't care. Your best friend is. I don't care if you're anonymous, if you signed your name or anything like that. I'm not interested in your opinion unless you acknowledge, you create, you implement a system of accountability that addresses the behavior.

The two parts of that. There are two parts of that, and please do not mistake me because the first part of that accountability is on us. It is our job to enforce behavior and it, and deal with dissent with the tools that we have available to us. And week after week, I talk to the wonderful people in my community and my membership about times that they have not.

Use the tools at their disposal in order to deal with bad behavior.

Every week it comes up one way or another. This is a small group, just a sampling. So if we're doing this, we, us, we, if we are not penalizing dissent and misconduct and accusations of bias and cheating, if we're not doing that properly, that means everybody isn't doing it properly. It's all over the place.

We are part of the problem and we gotta fix it. That's one half. The other half is there has to be account. Put in place by clubs, by national associations, by teams, by continental federations, by everybody who says, if you are a dick, you don't get to play anymore. You don't get to coach anymore. We don't hire you.

We don't put you on the pitch. We don't let you into the stands. End of story. If we do not enforce, and if coaches don't enforce this on each other, if administrators don't en enforce this within their clubs, it's never gonna change. So stop writing articles and do something,

and that. My friends was my rant of the week. Wow. I forgot to press the button earlier. I just started going ELs abi. You came in right at the right time when I was yelling at a piece of glass. Andrew? Hi. Oh yeah. Okay. There it was. Yeah, it was in the hockey paper. So it's England.

I know, right? He's the best. Some of my best friends at Booz Match Simon's telling us this weekend after the match, two younger opposing team members confronted the umpire. Do you even know the rules? It was bad at, sorry. The do. Do you even know the rules as like young players?

One yellow card and one mmo. Postgame.

Uh, Matt sometimes getting the answers and what's important. Talking through the thought process. Yeah. Thank you. That's still on the, on the last topic. So let's see where else we're at. Uh, yeah, so you guys were picking up what I'm putting down there. There you go. Um, what's sad is the, the, all the associations right to stop and think that a policy that says it's not okay, but it doesn't change.

I, there you go. It was, I'm just bad at pressing buttons. You can't read article those articles. Well, there you go, Jordan. Good to see you. Or Joran, sorry, I'm anger. I can't read either. Ah, yeah, there you go. Hendrick, it's really upsetting, uh, to see this, uh, happening across lots of different sports with their umpires and referees.

How does rugby seem to keep it together?

Come here. I got a secret enforcement.

So Steffan has a quote from a former Australian defense chief. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Hi, no problem, Cat. That's what I thought.

I love it. Uh, Mr. Ston, you were talking to a team captain who has a few players down last week. One not available cuz he'd picked up a yell for shouting at the FHumpires. So the club. Imposed a match suspension. That is exactly what needs to happen. Instead of, what I sense when I talk to coaches and players is when they give the lip service to the idea that abusing umpires is bad and that they should do it.

It's like, but sometimes the umpires are wrong, so it's kind of okay. You know,

you have to be able as a coach to not yell at the umpires when they're wrong. You have to be able to keep your shit together when they have made a mistake, when they are having the worst game of their lives. That is the mark of commitment, disappointing character, and I can say that because I did it for a whole season and I could do it for the rest of my life.

As I sat on the sideline and didn't even pay attention to what the umpires were doing because I was doing my job, which was focusing on the players that I was being paid to look after. Do your damn jobs. Sorry,

by Hendrick. Okay,

I feel better. I feel better. Topic three. Goalkeeper sliding tackle.

Ah,

good old inside hockey. If the meme was good enough last week, let's do it another week. Same song, the Heavy Metal Rendition of Myelo Cyrus Wrecking Ball.

Love it. And I promised on Instagram I was gonna deal with this and I wanna deal with this first of all by going, okay, inside hockey, let's have a talk here. When you put up clips like this, it's click bait because even worse than the buck slide that we were trying to deal with, we can't see a thing. I have zoomed this up.

I mean, this is on Instagram. People are looking at it on their tiny little phones and sure, I know that the, the Youngs are able to see better than I can, but still they can't see this. I don't know. But what are the principles that we would look at if we could actually even see what was happening? Okay, we're looking.

The control or the lack thereof of the directionality of the slide. We're looking at the direction of the slide. Is the attacker going straight towards that player, that goalkeeper who's sliding and failing to change direction and simply going straight at that player who is closing down the space they are entitled to do Or are they coming from an angle?

Um, should I pull this? We'll do this really fast.

It's a binary kids. I'm just giving you a binary. No tricks, no restart with a bully. We're not adding that in there.

Let's hear what you have to say. You tell me the principles. I'm exhausted from my anger. Okay. I've just, that whole thing just got me so riled up and now that adrenaline is already falling off. Yeah, that striker did take a big, a big fly. Just on the last topic here, Steffan, you had enough with a parent who was abusing the players and the other umpire.

What? At halftime you told him if he doesn't shut up, you'd card the captain, he can explain why they're off enforcement, even if that probably wasn't strictly under your league regulations. I am mad. I'm not bothered. I'm bothered. Now that you're a goalie, Larry, you're saying play on. Oh, great. So Henry. Do you mind?

Like you don't have to. Okay. Because I don't ever wanna put people in that position. But if you wanna tell us what you saw, tell us what you saw.

For Simon. The attacker actually tries to stop. Appears to stop to change direction. Goalkeeper continues and takes them out. Boo says it's a penalty stroke in a yell card and she'd never do it cause boo boo. Smart Dave is gone with a penalty stroke in yell card. What ear? I don't even know if there's two teams out there.

I can't, I can't even see that. Okay. It's England under 16 versus Alster. Thank you for that information. Amazing. So Henry.

So some of the comments in the Instagrams talked about shielding by the attacker, and I just wanna make it clear. I'm not saying right now at this point that I believe that this is a intentionally reckless foul by the goalkeeper and it should be a stoke yell. But even if the attacker was shielding in that moment, that doesn't excuse news, the motion there, because clearly the goalkeeper is not disadvantaged by that shield of being prevented from making a tackle, cuz they just go straight through them.

So this is one of those situations that the attempt at disadvantaging the opponent would've been futile. And just is irrelevant, completely irrelevant.

Keep her played the ball. Gary don't. Don't. Steffan wants a penalty. Henry's deciding whether he wants to chime in with his thought process, maybe because he wants to see what everybody's gonna say.

The thing that trips me up, the thing that puts my Spidey senses on full alert here, are the relative angles of the players. So a goalkeeper is expected to go to ground. They're expected to use their body to stop the ball, but in this moment, the ball isn't going towards the goal. It isn't traveling in that direction.

The attacker is actually traveling. Kind of perpendicular to the goal and then the goalkeeper meets him with Pace

was white definitely attacking? I think so. He called up first. Okay. Henry's gonna go for it. Thank you. Henry. You're standing on the back post so you can see the keeper makes stick contact with the ball. Then you ask your colleague Visine anything and he has better angle for the contact. Looking at the video, you think it's a penalty stroke in a yellow card.

You're not hundred percent Simon Dolby on the red player leaning in on the attacker either. Yeah, that was an interesting thing as well. I was watching that angle. I don't know because, but whenever you're seeing two players running like that, the first thing you're thinking about principles, right? Is the attacker dropping the ball behind the left side of their body in an attempt to shield it from that.

Chasing defender. So you're looking at that and you're looking at whether there is potential body contact by that defender. Is there an obstruction? Is the stick getting in the way in front? We can't see any of that. Obviously. Only Henry would've seen that. Compare this to the first sliding tackle vid keeper is definitely, uh, hang on.

Uh, definitely not sliding into space. He's intentionally sliding into contact. So says tugs.

Simon, you think the white player leans first? Drop the shoulder, the red defender is responding? Yeah, and I mean it's, it's not, we, we don't really look at who started it, but we're looking at something like, is anybody really disadvantaged? Cuz sometimes shoulder to shoulder it's 50 50. It's competition for the ball.

And neither player is disadvantaging the other unfairly for you, the attackers in front of the defender and the ball's out in front. Yep. That's fine. And yet no obstruction players or shoulder. Shoulder. Exactly. So, and that's what I would've sus suspected, but we don't have the angles. And you did. So excellent.

Okay, I'm gonna wrap up this poll

and oh, your point is that it was 50 50 says Simon. Gotcha.

Two minute Warning it. Two minute warning. I need a song. I need a two minute warning song.

I'm trying to get rid of that old pole and it, oh, there it is. Okay.

Do, do, do, do, do. 84% of you want the stroke and the yellow and 15% of you say, play on. I think that's fair. It's, I think, you know, just seeing, you know, Henry's working, working through that situation and the angles and, and what I think what we wanna be mindful of is, and we talked about where his positioning was on that play, that he was on his back post, which is where you want to be in 95% of the time when the play is in and around your circle.

But sometimes you do need to make a little adjustments because you have a relatively clear, uh, a relatively clear circle. There's not a lot of likelihoods of where the ball is gonna pop out and be in the way. And that is a crucial mode of contact that if you are three meters up from your end line, You might have a better opportunity of seeing around the goalkeeper to see where the, the, the contact is coming from.

The other principle to keep in mind is watching the defender going into the tackle first. Okay, so are they, are they running at pace? Is that goalkeeper running at pace and going into where the body is going or are they going where the ball is? Slight, slight difference and probably explain very poorly in that moment.

If you're giving a stroke for an intentional foul there, you're saying it's intentionally reckless. Oh, there we go. Final countdown. Nope, nope.

Um, here, Steffan is the direction. See, I try to go faster in these things and then y'all have great questions and we have to really just work through them, so thank you. Keep them coming. Is the direction of the ball the only consideration given there's another attacker that could get the ball from the pass?

Hmm.

I'm not sure how that's relevant to how we're gonna apply that to the goalkeeper's decisions there. If you're saying he's making sure that that pass is never gonna get off because he is gonna make sure he takes that player down, then yeah. Yeah. I just, I did that intentionally tugs because I would want to see a yellow card accompany that.

Closing time. Yeah, a little too like, um, slow. And also did you know that that song is not about what you think it's about? So go Google that. It's very interesting, very interesting to hear about, um, the origin of that song anyway. Um, yeah, no, and that's, so Steven, let's make sure that we don't get into the trap of believing that every intentional, reckless fell for which we award a higher team penalty requires a personal penalty.

We don't, we look at on that merit, is it repeated behavior? Is it high impact? Is it physical and reckless? And there is something more inherently physical and reckless about everything that goalkeepers do because they can go to ground and they wear a lot of equipment. But that's one of those big, yeah, I would just.

Hmm. Henry thought it was both the colleagues thought it was play on. Yep. And that's totally fine. And Henry, I mean that video sucks. So this is not for you to sort of beat yourself up about it, but think about, okay, what kind of alternative actions could I have taken that would've given me a different angle?

I would, I would be interested in what your colleague was doing and what they were looking for, where they were looking and what kind of angle they were giving you. That would've been different because if they're wide and they're high, they're giving you the same angle that you're on. So are they interior the pitch and able to see something from a different perspective?

That would've been interesting. Would they have seen it from the angle that we kind of got from that tower camera rather than a side on camera smashing them. Got away with it. No worries, Don. I hope you're feeling better as well. Um, there we go.

I had some angers. It's true. Yeah. You kept getting caught when the goalkeeper came out. Okay. That's excellent. It's almost like there's a coach here who could be helping you with all this. I'm just saying, I haven't talked to you for a while, Henry, and I miss you. Yep. You're here. Good. Hmm. Yeah, but we're not, we're not talking about a probability of a goal, right?

That criterion, Steffan is not coming into this equation at all. We're not talking about an unintentional foul that stops a probable goal from being scored. So that's why it's a completely irrelevant. All we're talking about is whether this is an intentional foul.

Uh, I don't know how that song goes. Two minutes to midnight by Aaron Maiden, not a metalhead. Weird, both of you. Okay. How we doing for time? Um, my usual. These get faster. Um, this is more a food for thought. So this came from Mike McClean in the server, and I thought it was a really, I thought I had actually written a reply and a re a reply and I, I didn't ever send, so sorry, Mike.

Uh, I intended to talk about this, but the question was focused on when you should stop time for a suspected head head injury. And the rules or the, the briefing, the international briefing. All briefings indicate that when you suspect a head injury, when you see blood, when a player is in danger, you are to stop time immediately.

This is probably one of the most. 50 50 situations where I think in real time I would've also been tempted to continue play on if I didn't know how the injury was caused. Okay, so we're gonna isolate those two things and talk about the Times stoppage first, because as this play continues, that player is behind the attack, but they're in a direct lane.

If that goalkeeper is either better or worse, I don't know. Goalkeepers, you tell me. Should this rebound have been cleared more towards that same end line, rather than being popped into the middle of the circle, not an expert here asking an honest question, I would've expected the ball to go straight back that way because goalkeepers tend to like to keep their angles.

Over there. And when you see what happens, you're like, oh. And that's what happens when you rebound the ball into the middle of the circle. I'm not saying it's an easy shot, I'm just saying, you know, would I have tried to assess in that moment the likelihood of the ball getting back towards where that player is down on the ground and clearly unable to defend themselves?

I think it's pretty high. Okay. Um,

I need something with even more fury in it. And you were thinking the attacker. Um, okay. Shirley, when fly. Okay, there you go. So Andrew's asking if the attacker caused the head contact, actually what happens? What Ha happened was,

and again, This is promotiklasse. Did I say that reasonably correctly? I think it's promotiklasse. Anyway, it's under the hoof tolosa, I think. And look, we have like a long post right in the middle of the way. We can't see, for example, whether this chasing defender is committing a stick tackle right here from behind, which could have been a very quick penalty stroke.

Okay. When those calls get missed, players often get a little ticked off and then they end up doing things like this where the attacker is like, get outta my kitchen, you're interfering with my stick. And they lift their stick up too high or they, they use their stick in a dangerous manner considering where the other players are on the pitch.

And the last. Sort of piece of the puzzle is that this defender is coming in with a low stretched out stick and they have their head down low. Should we be deeming them as causing potential danger to themselves? In this situation, no, sorry, this is all on the attacker, so unless there was some action that happened before this and this defender was like, ha, ha, ha ha, interfering with a stick, and there was something that should have been called prior to this moment, that attacker used to stick dangerously.

That's an immediate free hit defense and it's a five minute yellow card. Boom, no goal scored. That's the way I see it. No poll. Let's see if y'all agree. Hint, please agree with me. I need some agreement today. I just need some agreement today.

Yeah. And that happens sometimes Jenny, uh, could, uh, supporting umpire might stop play, um, because they see danger, potential danger to a player in your circle that you're just not able to see cuz you're tracking the ball. And again, I'm not, it's not, this is not dragging the umpire in this situation cuz they've got a lot to process in this moment.

There's a lot of things happening here, but this is a very difficult call to make down in this area. You have to be well positioned to do it. And as Henry acknowledged in the last clip, this is probably a good time to be flashing up inside the circle. You shouldn't be standing in your happy place in that moment.

That is your call to make, and you have to get yourself into a position. And I think that umpire was in his happy place the whole time and couldn't see what was happening. Okay. So I'd love to work with you on your positioning front. Okay. But very difficult ball moving fast. And as this pass is going, this umpire, or not, the pass is going, but the maneuver, that umpire is probably also pre scanning.

Okay. Where are the danger points? Is somebody coming in for a slide? Who's gonna shoot this ball? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So a lot going on there. We all would like to thank Simon that we'd blow stop time as soon as possible. Is the player down in the D during act to play the ball Coming in is dangerous and it's our job to protect players.

Yeah. And then we start with a bully with a word to the defense, perhaps, to allow them to play the ball. The attacking team. Yeah. That would be, that would be the. You know, the, the remedy that you'd want. And the key is if you're gonna take that approach and say, look, there's a player down. I suspect blood, I suspect a head injury, that you blow that so quickly, this sliding door never opens.

You don't want the players to know what could have happened afterwards because you will never win at that point. Timing is everything. Everything when it comes to danger. And so you need to stop this before the goal goes in. And then you have a whole mess of things. Like, imagine if after this goal goes in, colleague comes up and says, ah, you missed it, the attacker, you know, hit the defender in the face.

And that actually should have been a free hit out before then. Whoa, now you've got a whole barrel of monkeys to deal with and it's not the fun kind. Right.

Um, I don't know. The, the action of the stick is more than what the ball needs. The stick comes up and the ball kind of, you know, just doesn't move. So I'm not sure. And the players are responsible for their sticks and it's not like the, the defender was, you know, laying on the ground, they tripped and then they'd put themselves in danger.

Is that, is that a reasonable tackling position? For most of us, I think it is. You wanna stop due the danger and not disadvantage either side. Yep. Um, okay. Good to know. Drive by agreement. Thank you. Thank you, jolt. Thank you for the drive by. He heard me say I needed some agreement and Joel's like, wait activated.

Mission accomplished. Thank you. Thank you. Gods. Um, Mike, you agree? It's reckless and dangerous by the attacker. Free Hit defense and a card. See, this is, this is the eagle strokes that I need right now. Yes. Look at this. I agree. I agree. Thank you. You guys are so good to me. Oh boy. Yep. Danon, you may have had a rant about a supporting on part blowing for an injury over, um, half the pitch away in yellow chat.

You may have done that. Tugs, looks like stick contact on body, leg stick left in the tackle from behind by green player. Um, yeah, not a PC stroke. So tugs, what we're looking for in that situation is weather. Reaching in from a position where you have a high likelihood of not succeeding in that tackle and the tackle does not succeed, that needs to be penalized as an intentional foul.

Not that he intended to foul the guy, but he intended the action that he took that was reckless as to the result that a foul was going to occur out of it. Okay. So that's the way that we're shaping how we administer, uh, the upgrade, the more severe team penalties and personal penalties when we need to card intentional files.

You can neither confirm, nor do I. Thank you. Another drive by. Okay.

Almost a Keely hour. I wanted to tell you a little bit about my experience at the Canam Indoor Tournament. Just a, just a quick little. Just a little quick a drive by really about about this. Why does this look so bad? I don't know. So this was two weekends ago, and this is the team. And look how pretty that everybody is super pretty.

And I learned two things out of this tournament that I wanted to share with you. The first one is I did something in the briefing meeting that I've not done before. I've never seen done before, but I learned from Fih Academy courses that I took and the ones that I've administered that telling the presentees the students, the audience that they are gonna present the material, they are gonna create the material and they're gonna present it back to you, is an excellent teaching tool.

So what I did before this is I had Jo and Pamba and Alex and Ridge who were on my team, I gave them four topics. From the indoor briefing that just happened to be four questions that the USA senior coach sent to me before the tournament asking for clarification on, and I said, well, these are the hot button topics.

This is what the US coach is interested in. So guess what? We're gonna make sure that we're on the same page with this. So each umpire had their topic, and that meant that not only did they have to go read the briefing and have a look at what the briefing said, and maybe explain the videos that they saw, and maybe if they had any questions or concerns about the videos, that we would work through those things together.

And it also had them going through the briefing too. Plus I didn't have to talk a lot, which was awesome for everybody involved. And when I took feedback from the four umpires afterwards, every one of them said that they thought that was great. So for those of us who are umpire managers, hi Matt Godder, a few of the others in there, and we're leading briefings before tournaments.

I'd invite you to give this a try. We're gonna do this before the E H C O trophy in Amsterdam next week. So get ready. If you have a favorite topic from the briefing outdoor that you wanna present on before the hco and you're gonna be umpiring for us, well get your request in early. The thing that I learned that I need to do better in the next tournament is planning match debriefs.

So this was a really tough tournament and we knew it was gonna be hard. We had four umpires for nine games, which meant that some umpires were doing back-to-back games, not just as umpire and reserve, but were doing umpire umpire. There was just no way of getting around it. And obviously that sucks.

That's terrible. But it also made it very difficult for me to, uh, find. The times when I could actually speak to an umpire because we're not gonna debrief a match while they're sitting at the tech table. They actually have jobs to do while they're on the tech table in terms of timing, penalty corners and, and helping for things like that, monitoring the cards, all that kind of thing.

So, um, I didn't do a good job in making sure that everybody got their match debriefs done so that they had actionable steps that they could put into their next games. So that's something I'm gonna be thinking about going into the EHC or trophy, which is gonna be so crazy that I'm gonna try to set aside times by agreement with the umpires who are doing matches to make sure that I can get that information in and we can have those discussions cuz they're so vital and need to.

Okay. Um, let's see. Uh, I know which meme you're talking about here. This is amazing, Luke. I'm in danger. Yes. And that's Rich. Absolutely. I had so much fun working with them. Um, yes, you do this at Work for Health and Safety, whole team learns. Uh, it was so good, so good. Um, there you go. Tricky to see both.

Thanks. Spot on. See Nick's still giving me those things. So anyway, that's what I learned. I hope that's helpful for you and that gives you something to think about as you go into your next experiences. And what's this one? Okay. Hmm. You know what I'm gonna, I'm gonna skip this one because I think it requires a good level of conversation.

So we're gonna, we're gonna save it, but I, I'm gonna slip this one at the end cuz this is some stick wise shit. Howery. Go on the Instagrams. Follow our friend Callum at Stick Wise and check out this little play. I saw this video and I'm like, this is hilarious. I loved this. As far as shade housing goes, it's very housey.

It's just so fun. And then I got into, I, I, I go into the comments of these things mostly because I like to torture myself and I found this was near the top. Andy plays hockey, quoted the rule. 9.3 Players must not touch, handle, or interfere with other players or their sticks or clothing. And players must not intimidate or impede another player.

Copy paste. Well done. Andy plays hockey. This was my reply that I said to Callum cuz we're friends. Uh, Andy. Boy. Hockey's clear. No, not part of the fhu3t because I forbid this kind of viciousness obviously a little bit tongue in cheek, but I meant it also. So what if the young player retaliates asked Andy plays hockey?

Would you allow this to continue? You would allow this to continue? Clearly not in the spirit of the sport. And I trotted out my 99 problems. Line. The ratio's pretty good, uh, for a comment that's buried deep in the Instagram tree. 12 lakes to um, 24. I'm not mad because you know, people don't bothered weed past.

They don't always read, you know, the nested replies, but I would appreciate all your help. If you also agree that trotting out a rule and saying that a little tap of the stick on the back of the leg is a violation of Rule 9.3, and it should attract a misconduct penalty because there's no actual disadvantage at that moment, but for the fact that the players an idiot and looks over his left shoulder.

If you agree that this does not need to be dealt with as a form of misconduct, maybe a wink and a smile and a hay don't get carried away sort of thing might, might even be needed, but I doubt it. You should have seen the stuff that I used to do when I played. It was not gentle like that. I was a goon that would qualify as 9.3 and yellow card, potentially more behavior.

I was terrible. So please head on over to this. Um, stick wise. Ugh, ugh. Go to this video and upvote my response. That's all I'm asking for. And, uh, let's see what's going on. I don't, you know, Simon, I go into the comments so that I can answer the questions that I think our reasonable community might have.

Um, I don't usually respond to a lot of this stuff, but I'll, I will go in and say, Hey, I've got an answer for this. Come to what up Wednesday? Mm. Cheeky little self-promotion.

But I try not to get into that anymore. My feelings about social media and those kind of conversations are well known. And if you don't know about them, I just wrote a big post in the server about it, so you can read that and, uh, uh, yeah, I, I don't know what I was saying. It was gonna be interesting, but yeah, it is helpful sometimes to go in the comments.

I just try not to, yeah, I torture myself. I feel sea. So I've decided this is a project we'll be working on in the next couple months. Rule 15, and the sub clause is to rule 15. I have a large number already drawn up, and the first one is don't be an official stick. That is 15.1. And then we go from there.

So we will discuss this in the server. I wonder if YouTube thinks that's a swear. Do they think, what if I was talking about a private detective? What if I was talking about my friend Richard? Would, would that word qualify? I forbid this level of ness. T-shirts. Hmm. I don't know if it's clever enough, but we'll find out.

We'll see. Yes, it's nine to 50. No, it's not worth dealing with it. Where's the disadvantage? Where's the real 9.3? Like it's, it's just not, no, it's just not even there. But being vicious is clearly in the spirit of the game as an, well, Andy's a player. It says, so rightness handle, he plays hockey.

I have throwbacks to an older player I know. Says Denman an attacker kept being overly physical and dirty with a junior player in defense. Okay. I would not do that. I only did that in competitive games against opponents. That were better than me. That's very different. The sub swaps him off and stands next to him and says, if you try that again, I'll wait until the, um, umpires not looking and break your nose.

Uh, did call, shout in a punt to my voice, but I do, I don't know what a pan to my voice is, but you can tell me more about that. It's this definitely the thin end of the shit housey wedge, but we're okay with nuance. We know that there's gray area. That's what our game is. It's, it's like, why is our pitch even green?

It should be painted gray and it should be ombre and like gradient gray. It shouldn't even be one gray because it's so nuanced and it goes all over the place. And I'm telling you that my nuance is screaming at me that there's nothing wrong with this. Suck it up. And David's gonna try it in his next hockey game.

Good. I love it. Oh, it's almost as risky as standing on so many shoelaces. Oh, if that's the worst that I did, Gary, I gonna tell you.

Um, shit. Heery is a word that YouTube required me to approve in the chat message. Oh shit. Hoos. He is. That's interesting. What's up with that? U2 first recruitment line for umpires is found in the all black tagline. Dickhead need not apply. There you go. Okay. Look, I'm not encouraging it, Gideon. I'm not saying that everybody should go out this and use this as a tactic, but

thanks for playing along today. Are we gonna do a what up Wednesday next week from Amsterdam? I don't know. Uh, what we might do, and the more that I talk aloud, the more I'm talking myself into this idea, we are very, I am very happy and I'm gonna speak royally. We are so happy that my friend is candor ley from Malaysia.

A retired F IH umpire just happened to have reached out. He's like, oh, you're going to do the E H C O trophy. I'm going over too. And I'm like, hi, do you have any friends to hang out with? He says, Matt Lone Ranger. And I'm like, nah, come on. You're one of us now. So is Candor is gonna come along and he's gonna give us a talk on the Wednesday if you think it's a good idea for us to live stream that talk.

So, uh, we would have two mics and camera recording us and stream that out to what if Wednesday. We can try that. I don't know, like, why not? Let me know if you think that's a good idea. Um, yeah, they heard the naughty word.

Uh, let's see what happens. Canadian internet.

You broke it. What happened?

Am I back?

I seem to be live. Couple more seconds. What has happened? Happening? Okay, it's still running for some people, so it's only not running. For some of you,

this is fascinating.

Oh boy. Yeah, I guess Andy plays hockey has hacked me. That's great. Cheers, friend.

This is, this is just crazy. See, you are there. God is going.

I don't know what's happened. Stream Health Stream is healthy. Excellent. I froze on some outputs, but you have me on tv. Okay, well I'm wrapping up anyway. Um, one 30 I talked about is candor. It's an EU thing. Apparently the word shit, housey is a bad word and that's why I said it again. Um, engineers have friends.

That's really rude. They have more friends than I do because I just made an enemy today. Still stop for you. I don't understand. Okay.

Thank you very much. We'll see you next week probably somehow come into the server, FH umpires slash um, there it is.

And yeah, we'll see you in there and thanks. You're awesome. We are gonna have some fun next week and everything will be different. Have a great week y'all, and goodbye.

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