Live Q&A #WhatUpWednesday Ep. 97

📅 Nov 9 🚨19.00 GMT🚨
➡️ https://youtu.be/XXN6q4-o6Ro

We review a video review for a free hit at the 23m hit to the circle, a lob shot on a penalty corner, a feint by an injector, and another red in the Hoofdklasse. Also: should we card players for endangering umpires? It'll be a wild one this week, so keep your arms and legs inside the car and hold on tight!

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⏱ Chapter Markers:
0:00 Chair Dancing
2:27 Topics!
09:45 1. Rolling Free Hit to Goal
40:21 2. Facemask to the Face
57:47 3. Injector feint on PC
01:00:32 4. Sliding attackers on Penalty Corners
01:20:39 6. Scoop Shot On Goal
01:24:01 6. Yet Another Red Card

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Transcript

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Happy Wednesday. Good to see y'all. Keely, Dunn, FHumpires and yes. It's been a morning. I have gotten last minute information on a few of the topics that I'm talking about today. So I was frantically pulling together new scenes and, and, and extracting clips and audio and, oh boy, it's, but it's gonna be good.

Okay. We have a massive show and with many, many things to talk about, so let's get into it. I will say hello to people as well, but don't worry. This is what we're doing today. We're gonna talk about a rolling free hit to goal, a face mask to the face. Yes this happened. An injector pa faint on a pc, a sliding attacker injury.

Uh, shots on goal, yet another red card is gonna close us out, most likely. Whoa, that's a little close. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna dial this back. Actually, no, I didn't mean to do that. Hi. There we go. Um, don't forget. This is the last week in which you can pre-order. If you are not a yellow member, this is where you can pre-order the mission critical positioning course for $5 off.

So it will be launched. It's coming along really nicely. It's launching on the 15th. My biggest problem is figuring out how much of my rambling to cut out, but I'm starting to get merciless and I'm like, that isn't important. I'm cutting that out. So the editing is definitely coming along. $5 off November 15th is the start date, and it's gonna be an escapade in discord like no other.

And that's one of the things that I want you to know about is that just because it's asynchronous doesn't mean that I'm not there. I will be there to answer all your questions in a specific channel just for those of you who are in this course, and people who have taken in the past will be there. So it's a nice, it's a nice little system.

I think it's gonna work out really well. So that's our sponsor today. Um, I don't have any major shoutouts. I just wanna congratulate two members of the F H U third team who had fantastic weekends on the pitch. First of all, Ben Hair sign. Hair sign, hair sign. Oh, I don't know. He shared his report with me that he had with an umpire coach assessor this weekend and it was fantastic and apparently one of the teams that he was umpiring commented that it was the best umpiring that they've had all season.

And I'm very, very proud. Great work Ben. And also Chris Pelmore, who should be in the comments, uh, had an exceptional assessment. So I am very proud and once the. Attendant reward for that report. See, I, I don't know if I can say that out loud. Can I say I don't think I can. I have to wait until it's formalized and then we can have a bit of congratulations, but we'll see how that's all gone.

Okay. Um, oh goodness. I'm looking at the comments and first of all, oh, Ben's in here so he can correct me on the pronunciation of his, of his last name. But, uh, Niels is here, which is great. And Cat, I gotta get you a wrench back, Cat. Um, and Shane, we were hanging out in the voice channel, which was really fun.

So that was, um, that's always a nice way to start out. I just like that. It, I, that the kind of umpire I am, I am is that instead of getting very psyched out and focused and, you know, listening to Eminem before, You know, get on the pitch. The best way for me to prepare for big events is just to gas it up with people and have a little chit chat and some giggles.

And me. That's how I relax and that's what people are doing for me. It's almost like I set up the tailgate so that you guys could facilitate my confidence boosting anti-anxiety activities. Thank you. There you are. Uh, anyway, sorry. And Rachel popped in there. It was good to see Rachel, uh, slightly later than usual.

Yeah, it's a little weird. It's a little weird stains here. And you're loving this thumbnail. Oh, I don't know which thumbnail we're what, what, what was happening, but whatever. Whatever. It worked. It worked. Oh, the thumb. Oh, for the actual YouTube. I know. You know, when you, so for those of us who do these YouTube things, we sometimes have to do the YouTube face photo shoot where we like, and we, you know, we do all these funny gestures and I finally had a reason to go, so I use that one.

There you go. Um, this was cause for the alarm in the beginning. Simon is not here. I'm gonna have to do my best, but there you go. And thank you William. Look at that gorgeous avatar. What? That didn't work. Let's this worked like that. I tell ya, I should be so happy about merch shots, but I really am. Those are great pictures.

Uh, Jeanette is here and yes, I was running around. My tea bitch needs to be better at, at their. I'm just kidding. Shane, you're perfect. Lauren, you're here. Good to have you and Steph on Kia, or as always Gideon's here. You're gonna replay squad this. Thomas, I'm glad you're here though. Thank you very much.

You're very active in the server and I really appreciate that. So thanks for being there and being here. And then, then to come back and to be back again on the replay squad. Mike's here. Thanks for, uh, coming . I didn't three minutes exactly. Jeanette. Three minutes. I have a very, very, uh, scientifically tested system for all of it.

There you go. As a plug, you're gonna get your daughter and yourself on the mission critical. Of course. Oh yes. Fantastic. And I, I, I said it three different ways. Ben, that doesn't help Ben. Which of the three is it hair sign, horror sign? or with an accent au over the E and sign Aura sign. I could pronounce it all French.

There you go. And congrats coming in. There you go. Yes, we're all . It's pretty crazy. Stephan, good to have you. Stefan. Harm Stefan. Heron. Harmons. Herons. I think it's sea needs. Anyway, you can tell me. Oh, Alene. Good to have you. Glad you're there. The first on hair sign. Okay. It's official. I did it right One of the ways.

Wow. Okay. Who some, something about running around to make your tea just before you start gets your, gets your heart rate going and your energy levels up. So let's get into the content, shall we? Topic number one, a rolling free hit to goal. We have a lot of clips from the Pro league to look at. So please have a gander at this.

I shall make a poll, I think.

Okay, the poll is started. Love to hear your thoughts on this.

Now the question that's answered is interesting.

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Hi. So you can watch this on the replay. There is a stick over the ball there. Okay. The ball does not stop dead. It continues along its pathway and by the time it is struck, it is inside the 23.

What do you think and why? Very important. Okay. Very clear that, uh, Ray gets a touch inside the circle and as was rightly pointed out, she doesn't have to be the last player to touch it. There just has to be a, an attacker who touches it inside the circle.

So we're now on the replay. So I'll, I'll let this cycle for a bit. Let's hear what you think. Um, there you go.

And just a few, congratulations. I wanna get these out. Congratulations on your reports. Congrats.

Is this an acceptable substitute? I sure hope so. Oh, you know what? I haven't done that. I haven't started my little background music to soothe me to abate this high level of intensity that's going there en crested very well. Well, just a happy chappy. Okay. Good to know. Alright. Some opinions now, Ben. Goal touch and circle attack made a clear attempt to stop on the free hit attack.

Thank you for that, Scott. You think the free hit was taken on the 23 meter line, meaning it was taken in the 23 meter area, therefore making it a free hit to the fence because you cannot hit the ball straight inside the circle. Do you remember the one with ? Do you remember? The time of band camp says Chris, the one of the Commonwealth games with Australian England.

This is even clearer where she's taken it from totally obvious crack on goal. It's messy. Yes, Michael. It's messy and that's why I was, I'm just ready to hear from all you goal. The ball was quite stationary, but it was close enough and it was obvious that the free hit was being taken and the free hit was awarded outside the 23 meter.

Okay, cuz the problem's coming in here at this moment, but she does put the ball over or put the stick over the ball at this moment. Whoops, as I'm trying to diagram. That's not working.

Okay. So with this, if I can scroll back to the right moment.

Okay. As she's bringing the ball here.

Okay. That is a, that is a reverse stick over the ball right here. Okay. But it's not a dead stop.

And as the ball continues to roll, one of the questions you may ask yourself is, did she gain a significant advantage? Enough of an advantage to overturn the decision of a goal by not. By, by being able to contact the ball that 50 to 50 centimeters to one meter ahead of the exact spot of the free hit.

Matt, or surely, surely, I really, I, whenever I see the word surely starting off a statement about umpiring, I'm like, okay, now we're in trouble. Because it always seems to go poorly. Surely if we're saying the attempt to stop the balls outside the 23, it's a goal, except I think he got, just try not saying that

because it is difficult. This is a very, very difficult call. I want you all to know that I have flip flopped 17 times on this one for sure. For Rachel, it's a clear attempt to stop the ball. Free hit outside can go straight into the circle goal for Rachel and the attempt to stop the position, the foul is sufficient.

There's no incorrect placement to gain better passing lines, et cetera. That's an excellent point, Gideon, and that's where I was drawing out that concept. Was there a significant enough advantage gained by the fact the ball rolled that 50 cent? To the line, 75 centimeters, whatever it is, such that the ball was let go there.

Was that enough to overturn? In your opinion, where's the h Where's the humbleness, Scott, when appropriate? The ball doesn't have to be fully stationary, as long as it's obvious where it's taken, when it's taken. So five meters, et cetera could be judged. And you think the take hit was taken? The hit was the taking.

So free hit defense. You think the free hit was the taking? Okay, so, uh, sorry. You're, you think that the, the striking of the ball was the taking. And that's the part that I also trip up on, is that

there is, if that's, if that's the touch to stop the ball and to indicate where it's taken from, through no fault of the defenders who are five meters away,

the free hit gets taken. Now, I've often advocated when it comes to ball placement around the 23 that if a team is gonna take advantage of some latitude as to ball placement, that if that latitude is given such that, oh, it's only 50 centimeters away, but now they're gonna take it more quickly and take it inside the 23, then they should be bound by the rules of the 23 meter area.

Like, you know, that's, that's the cost, that's the cost to that. When the initial foul was outside, however, the ball placement wasn't set up. The actual place where the player was trying to indicate, this is where I'm taking the free hit from,

was outside the 23. So it's a really good point, Scott. I really, that's, that's where I've really taken upon, you know, my own thinking and. When Simon Mason talks about this, he kind of gives us, it, it really does shape our thought in regards to this cuz he says, well, the first action, taking the free hit.

Well, is it though? And has that ever been something that we apply? Do you ever talk about, oh, what the first action on taking the free hit is or anything like that? Is that a concept that we, we embody? Um, you, let's see, where are we? Sorry. Yeah, there's definitely a touch inside the circle. Lean, you're absolutely right.

Um, but we're going to another level of analysis, even though that wasn't the question that Kat asks. The video umpire is obligated there and, and she's taken her own referrals as well. Don't, don't forget that. Not that that matters. That shouldn't stop a video umpire from taking a look at everything that might.

Be involved. I don't know if Bruce took the free hit placement and the rolling ball into account. We don't know that because there's nothing in the verbiage that would, would indicate it. But doesn't mean that it was, it was ignored, Jeanette. It was given as outside the attacker made the emotion to stop just because it slid forward a little.

You don't think that's reason enough to deny a great goal? Hendrick? Unless there's been repeated issues about the ball not being fully stopped for the vehicle goal it was, or awarded outside the 23. Yeah, I c I can see what you're saying about repeated instances, but when you have something as pivotal as a goal, you really wanna take into account what advantage or disadvantage occurred in this particular situation.

We talk about repeated instances more in terms of personal penalties. If we need to deal with something, if a team is constantly. Being jerk faces and taking the ball a little further away, which then causes you as an umpire to, no, you gotta bring it back to this place. For example, if that team is leading late in the game and they're taking the ball from the wrong place, cuz oh, I didn't know.

Then you have something to deal with. You have an intervention to make. So that's when we take that into account. Not necessarily here, I don't think. And you're thinking the same as Chris. What did Chris say? I don't know. Andy. Hi.

You might be a new, I don't remember your name, so I'm giving you the air horn. Congratulations. If Ari was given outside then goal clear attempt at stopping the ballot side benefit to the attack, um, the message to you might be not to be too technical. Yeah. And it's so hard, right? Because we want to be correct, we wanna make sure we're being fair, but what we want to take into account so often is, Whether the thing that we're being picky about actually impacted the play.

Did anything change for the German defense Because that ball rolled forward 50 centimeters and I don't think it did. And Gideon made the point about, well, it didn't change an angle, it didn't open something up that shouldn't have been there. It didn't cut out a defender, so it should probably be okay.

Stefan, can the touch before the line before her hit of the ball be like a self pass? It could be. And it's interesting because do we declare that a motion on the ball has to be the stopping motion? Can't be part. Of the free hit. Does a stopping motion have to reverse entirely the motion of the ball or arrest the ball?

Not necessarily to make it stationary, but like, say it gets played a different way. Like how, how picky are we gonna be about these little motions? And that's when I start going, well, it's not worth it because it doesn't change anything for the defenders.

Uh, the VU hasn't been asked, so no reason for him to believe that there was an issue with the taking. Well, I mean, perhaps, perhaps, but I think it's, it's incumbent on, you know, quality vi video umpires like Bruce is to already be sensing and just to check on that little thing as well. And I, yeah, I would see that Mike is with Nick Wat I've lost track of witnesses.

Oh yeah, he was like, yeah, it's good. Um, it was the, the free hit was given inside the 23? No, it was given outside the 23. And if we go back to the full, if I go back to this video. Okay. Wait for it.

Okay. Little scramble. That's where the foul was given. Okay. It was that obstruction outside the 23. So there you go. Ster goal, drop goal. He says there was some action before the pass into the deed, indicate the start of the free hit. And what I think is important is, would we, as umpire say at that point, yes.

Everybody started five meters away. The whole German defense was five meters away at that point. So would we then say, Can the German defense close if they had started to, is that the touch that we're looking for? And that's, that kind of backs up what Scott was saying more is that, and maybe that is where the disadvantage is because the German defense is going well.

Is that the spot? Is it there? Is it, it's hard to say.

Would we have said there that aro ause, for example, number five, that she could have closed? Or would we have penalized her for jumping the ball?

I dunno. What's the guidance if the ball's not stationary when taking a for hit? Does it disadvantage the opposition? That's the guidance I'm guiding you right now. It doesn't have to be stationary. Dead stationary just doesn't. And there's, you think the meant honest in my, oh, I always thought it was humble opinion.

Matt. That's interesting. I thought it was humble. Yeah. Six voters are thinking the free hit defense. Um, the ball must be stationary, but yeah, we're not going, we're not gonna revisit that play. If you would like to know more about what con consists of a disadvantage to the opposition when a ball is not taken stationary, please go back to the what up Wednesday.

I'll come back and I'll put a little card up here and I'll put it in the description where you can go to the discussion of that very, very contentious play where I backed up the decision to allow play to continue in the gold stand with my very articulate. You don't think the defenders would've been able to tackle, uh, at either the attempted stop or the hit?

So no advantage gained. Okay. And you flipped. Alright. Can you change your poll answer? I don't know if you answered already With self passings, a player is perfectly entitled to take a, take, a slight touch to go before hitting into the deep. Was the stick over stopping the ball or you're also playing it?

Yes. Michael, that you've articulated what I was trying to get out. Much better than I did. Thank you, Mike. Uh, if one of the defenders had closed down after the initial cover, then you'd penalize them. You would,

the ball rolls. Almost a meter. Almost a meter. If it was stopped by an defender, who is now four meters away from the ball? Is it a pc? Because they've legally broken down play.

Yeah, I would hope not, cuz that definitely would be incorrect. But I've seen, I've seen, I've seen that happen a lot. There you go. You might take a reset. I, I know it's hard, right? But a reset is like, a reset is pretty much awarding a free hit against, because now every, every piece of the puzzle that led to that goal is now destroyed.

Everybody's back, everybody's set, blah, blah, blah. It's just a crappy little free hit outside the 23 snow. Good. So you gained an advantage from the roll in that you get two bites of the cherry, the ball into the circle, or a reset if the defenders stop it. Well, I wouldn. This is why I hate resets as well.

Would the defense have been able to refer the rolling ball?

Oh my God, Rachel, because you can only refer incidents that happen outside the circle, or sorry, that happened inside the 23 that lead to the penalty corner of penalty, stroke or goal. The ball was rolling outside the 23.

You can't even refer this anyway. You couldn't refer that because the ball is on the line, on the line as it's being struck. But the rolling ball, the incorrect ball placement or conduct of the free hit happens outside the 23. So, I mean that answers why Bruce didn't speak to it. . Um, wow.

It's tricky

Rachel. Good work. Hi. I've been told to change, God. I've forgotten your real name already. I have to go back into the server and find it. Hi. You just got in late. Oh, it's been as really simple question so far. And you're sticking to it. I don't know what you're sticking to. If the umpire thought it was important to have the ball stop the ex exact position, she Yeah.

I mean, ideally, Alan, you're absolutely right. Proactivity with ball placement and rolling ball is so crucial because had that been addressed in the moment, and it happened very fast, if, but let's, let's presume that CataA could have gotten then early, got in there early, we would've had no idea what was stopped and what was prevented or what changed.

Cuz we're, we're in a a Glassdoor situation. The butterfly wings have flapped. We are now in a completely different version of the multi.

Oh, who knew? This was gonna be such a philosophical thing. You used to be stationary, but you brought a card out. Luke, there's no time for humor today. the other attacker. Obstructs the offender. No, don't care. Don't care. We don't talk about obstructing view. That's your problem. We obstructed from playing the ball, not obstructed from seeing the ball.

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there we go. Yep. She's, she cracked my brain. Uh, there we go. Been told to change ball. Moving towards, but we'll give a stronger hit. But really it's, it's barely moving. It's barely moving. Is it? Are we really gonna say that was the difference? The financial memory that an international player of this caliber can't hit that ball hard enough to get it on target and through, eh, it's picky.

That's picky. Um, yeah, so I, I think the point though, I don't want us, us, us at home to get too caught up in what the vu can and cannot do, cuz it's not really about the correctness of this decision. What we're trying to do is suss that out so that we understand what principles would we apply when we're at home and we're doing our matches, what would we call and would you call that being hit straight into the circle?

Would you call that for a rolling ball

in the moment cuz that's all you've got? Or the consultation with your colleague after. Um, where would your gaze as an, um, this is I think gonna be a great question. Where would your gaze as an umpire ideally be? If you can see an attacker preparing to strike the ball without a vu, would you even be looking at that point in space?

Nope. I wouldn't. I hope not. I hope I would be looking at what's happening inside the circle. Is somebody's shirt getting held? Is somebody getting uh, blocked? Is somebody tripping up another player? That's what I would've been doing. So you would be counting on your, your backside umpire. You're, you're supporting umpire to be helping you with that.

Cuz look at all the bodies in front. Block five puts her arm down at the point where the ball is in. Uh, to stop. So she clearly thought it was a stop ball. She may have thought, I'm not sure. She clearly thought it's perhaps a hit, but I don't think we wanna really jump too strongly to that conclusion. The free hit was taken, the 23 Travel Direct.

This is why I want us to banish words like clearly and simple, because we wouldn't have been talking for the last 25 minutes about something that was simple, Martin. So don't bring that to the table. That doesn't help. You can say, my interpretation of the situation is this,

and that's fine, but it's not simple. This is extremely complicated. Rado, how's, how's it going? Uh, five and three are clearly playing as I see the attacker scans the field game on for you and. Eh, so this, and what Jeanette said earlier touches on the potential disadvantage to the defenders. You know, they're, they're scanning, they're looking, they're getting themselves prepped.

You have a player who's, who's ready, and they're, you know, ause is getting in position to, to stop that ball from five meters away.

It's rolling in a free hit to you. But is that, is that the amount of rolling that you are gonna reverse the free hit on every time in that situation, in that context with the proximity of those players, et cetera, et cetera? That's a high standard. It's a high standard for stationary, and I think you might get yourself into trouble.

It's, um, I don't know.

Well, it's, it's hard to say, um, cuz Nika, uh, Lorenz does have an extended conversation with Kat and she's like, look, this is my referral. Nika may have been saying to Kat at this moment, yeah, but would you look at the free hit position as well? Like, that's the problem we have. And who knows if, if it took, you know, us looking at this for a while and Rachel to see it and me not even thinking about it, would the umpires in that situation have been like, Hmm, that's not referable.

Uh, that's not a, that's a, not something that the players can refer, nor is it properly the subject of a video umpire or an umpire self-referral to the video umpire makes it hard. Oh, it's some finish. Yeah, it absolutely is. Um, Brightler wrongly says, Chris Palmer, you take slight cues from player reactions to assist in interpretation.

It's a fine line. Uh, I think we all do that because we're looking at what the spirit of the rule is trying to accomplish. And what it's trying to accomplish is to make sure, for this example, are the players safe? Are they able to be five meters away? Can they protect themselves from a ball that's being hit from the hit at them, for example?

That's the ultimate overriding purpose of not being able to hit directly inside the 23, the rolling ball rule, or the sta that the ball needs to be stationary on a free hit that is so that everybody knows where the ball's been taken from and that the five meters can be accomplished by the defenders.

So do we have those two spirits aligned in this moment? I think we do. Okay. I'm gonna pull the warning and end the poll.

Okay, what do we got? Okay. Nobody, comment for a sec. Yeah, there we go.

Okay, so 75% of you stuck with. The goal, 1% of you are like me and just really glad you weren't in that situation. 37 votes. Thank you very much for all your input. I think on the balance that a goal is the right decision. I don't think that the defenders were disadvantaged by the ball continuing to roll.

We know that technically we've covered this. Now that that wouldn't, the ball rolling could not have been referred because it's outside the 23. So if you have given the decision that you would then at home have to look at, did I make the incorrect decision? Am I going to reverse my own decision in this moment and say that that free hit was incorrectly taken.

It needs to be reset it, or it needs to be a free hit to the defense. You reset this ball, you're gonna have even more problems if you are going to call a free hit defense. Remember that's the standard that you now have to apply in similar situations all throughout the match. And that's gonna be a really tough standard to meet.

So there you go. Um, oh, you got the stereo fact from the timer. I don't know what I did wrong. And here's Gide. Stats, man. You're right. Where are all the thumbs up? Give it a little Yes. Very interesting discussion. Nearly certain umpires are sticky and others aren't. You profile your, um, pars and play to their version That is fascinating, Moe, and something that umpires need to think about.

And that's time.

That's a very, I'm very big. Why am I so big? What's wrong with my camera stuff there? I'll just go back to that scene. That'll work better. So really, really difficult. A lot of things to think about, but I hope that we've got the principles outlined and that this was a good exercise for all of us. To go through.

I know, right. What's up with the 99%? Gordon, if you are a first time con contributor, contributor, you are making a snack when you started the video and you've only just realized that this is live. Oh, . Holy smokes, Gordon. Well, this is the land of the umpire nerds, so if you are intrigued with the level of detail to which we are trying to sort out these decisions, you were in the right place, sir.

So thanks for stopping in. Uh, there you go. You initially thought goal and you still think it's a goal. Okay. And it's almost achi. I know. Okay, let's get onto numeral dose, AK face mask to the face for our Chilean friend Kata. I've known KA for a long, long time.

She's not just a little pissed

Great save by the goalkeeper right there, by the way. So hopefully you could see that in the background

right there.

Okay. And we have Bruce popping in to replace. So for those of you who haven't had the opportunity to work in a tournament or a match situation where you have a reserve umpire on deck,

that's what we have. So Bruce now gets to step into a match in the fourth quarter with two minutes left. The question is who gets the cap? Hopefully both of them. Okay. So when we get to this point, I, I might stall it, but I think everybody's seen by now. How it happened and it and absolutely nothing malicious about it whatsoever.

Part of the struggle with the protective equipment rules

is that the defenders feel a lot of pressure to get the masks off in a timely manner because they know what the rules are and that if the penalty corner is over, which it wasn't to that moment, it wasn't over because the ball hadn't gone more than five meters outside circle, and none of the other conditions that end a penalty corner had occurred.

So they could have elected to keep the mask on if they wanted in this moment, unless Keta said, get the masks off, which I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have in this moment. I just wanna get to the point where we can see. The last replay. Was it here? No, it was right there.

Okay, so it happens. It happens right here in this bottom corner. Okay, so just in case you weren't sure, it's right there. Okay. So the German players checked their mask in that direction. Okay. Whoa. Why isn't it showing up? Come on now. Dammit. Drawing on the screen. Nothing coming through. I'm sure that's operator error.

Okay, so the question is, oh wait, add, pull. This is gonna be a quick one though, gang.

Because it was already a pc.

PC for the face mask or,

okay. Oops.

There you go. Oops. Okay.

Do you have enough?

Come on now. They won't let me ask my community.

Oh. Okay. This doesn't seem to be working. Let me try this one last time.

Is there already a pole? Nope.

Try one more time because I love poles. They're super fun

and I want to give credit there. Phew. That was hard. It's okay. Oh, and of course I didn't restart the video, so you didn't have a chance to continue watching. Okay. Let's see what you're comments are on this one. Hi, Nick. Don't we all? All right. We'll have to get that in the shop soon. Get me a design, Adam, come into the server and get me a design.

And it is very ouch, but is intentional. No, it's absolutely not intentional. There could have been anyone there. Yep. It's up to a player to discard safely. Right. Intentional would be a red cardinal question, but it isn't that brilliant to, for her to keep watching the play. Kata is a, um, football keeper, so she, she's a, she's a hockey player as well, but her main sport she was telling me a few years ago was, she plays in goals.

So it's not like she's, she is not a delicate flower. She's tough and I wouldn't have expected anything else from her in this moment, but she's probably pretty fast and there's quite a bit of blood. She's been, she's been cut. The um, end result was that she didn't have to get stitches, but she had to get glued.

But she hasn't been back on the pitch since. And this happened in the second match. This was the second match in Argentina. So she missed like three matches. She's missing three matches. Maybe she'll be on tonight. I'm not sure. Yeah,

the PC wasn't over so the equipment didn't need to be discarded yet, but they're not obliged to keep them on. Of course, it is a rule failure that explicitly says dangerous to other players. It should say players or other umpires. Alright, friends, I have something for you. Rule nine 16. And I have to give full credit to Matt Harrison, who this morning was messaging me saying, Hey, did you remember to check nine 16?

And I was like, Oh, players must not throw any object or piece of equipment. Is this gonna work now? Nope. Of course, it's not Any object or piece of equipment onto the field, at the ball or at another player umpire or person

drop, it's right there, gang. So the question is, what is the appropriate remedy? Now that we know that in this case, when it comes to throwing objects or pieces of equipment, umpires actually get included in this one. Yay.

So what is the remedy?

So I'm gonna, I'm gonna skip all the people things. Um, . See, I gave you the credit, did I not promise. And I delivered, I delivered Matt Harrison, my very good friend of many, many years, and one of the people who had the most to do with my progress as an umpire. Thank you very much, Matt, for saving me from being wrong, cuz I would've been wrong from sw.

The player has to discard the equipment safely, PC for that reason. But danger is to opposing players so you can't slot it under regular danger rules. Okay? If a, if an umpire gets hit by a ball that was played dangerously at them, doesn't matter. We are not players, we are not opposing players. That's not a foul.

If they do it intentionally, you have a whole different issue, but an unintentional causing of danger doesn't disadvantage a player like the other team on the pitch, and that should foreshadow what the best answer is. To the poll question. Thank you. Dina, please do come out and hang in the discord and yell at me more about this.

Really unfortunate player needs to be more away aware of where they are throwing their stuff. I mean, I'm sure she felt horrible. Uh, you can only cause danger to the opposition. Okay, Nick, instead of saying pretty sure. How about you do what I failed to do in this case? How about open up the rule book and assure yourself that that is the correct wording?

Nine 16 doesn't matter. People are not included in anywhere in the rule book. People doesn't matter. People are not a defined term. People are not protected by the rules. Opposing players are protected by danger.

Okay. Umpires are protected and is specifically enumerated under nine 16 as something, as a, as an entity at which objects cannot be thrown.

I know, right? It's okay. Nick, this is not, this is not about Blaine. This is just an exercise. Uh, definitely, definitely. It should have been a fantastic bottle of Argentinian mal Beck, although she probably thinks that Chile and Mal Mel's better. Anyway, you're welcome. It's good to see you here. Uh, Adam Swan.

Brilliant. Give the attackers a chance to score before blowing I, and that was the best part, right? Is that, uh, , I mean, who of us wouldn't just stop time immediately? It's like, oh, I'm cut, I'm bleeding. There's like blood dripping down onto my shirt. I've just taken a face mask to the face, but I'm gonna see if the attack can score because that's the best service I can give to the game.

It's bloody ridiculous. Really?

Oh, person is, sorry, Scott. Apologies. My bad person is there. My bad. Thank you Mike for correcting me. See, I'm, I'm having a day. I'm having a day. Umpires are normally treated like straight dogs. Let's not get, you know, we don't have to get all defensive and, you know, woe is us about this, but we are specifically included in this because it's something there.

Read read the f-ing r. I don't know what R S W A B is. Please tell me. Okay. You agree about awareness, but throwing means she's actually throwing something at somebody. Was it thrown at or in the likely vicinity of Well, it hit her, so it was thrown at her. Like we don't have to argue those points. And she wasn't looking, but she threw an object at, she threw a piece of equipment at the UM, empire and a story.

Shane,

how can I here?

Okay, we are gonna have two minute warning. This.

We had some votes.

We had some votes. We had some things. Is that the one oh

oh No. . Stop deleting the wrong pole. Okay. 66% of you wanna play on restart with the pc. PC immediately for the face mask, 18% card to the fender restart the pc. 15% of you, so many of you probably answered this before nine 16, just as Nick did as well. The best solution here as the rules currently are phrased and how they work, I talk a lot about how team penalties reset the balance of fairness as between the two competing teams.

Was the opposing team here disadvantaged by the. That an object was thrown at an umpire. No. So there isn't a f, there isn't a foul that requires a team penalty be awarded here, but after the fact, yes. And in this case a yellow card, five minutes, 10 minutes, depends on what you want. Given that we go with something that's recklessly dangerous is five minutes and then recklessly dangerous and actually injure somebody, we, we tend to up that to a 10 minute.

I can see a case for either in this case, so, but something here more than just the PC that had already been awarded because of a different foul for the danger that was caused by the defenders in making that very last save. And that my friends now, you know, nine 16.

See what you got here. It's an irony of mission critical positioning of PCs. You end up right in the face. Well, I mean, even without that movement pattern, if you're not there for a penalty corner, you're probably doing it wrong. I think you're always there. restart with Shane on the benches. left right out.

Absolutely. For Jeanette, you'd go for a five minute yellow. That's fair. Uh, you nearly got one of the head recently politely reminded the player afterwards the ball was dead to remember there are two umpires on the pitch. You laughed and said he was working on his aim. . Oh, that's funny. I like that. Good job.

See, you're improving. That's all I want from everybody is the improving. There you go. I'll deal with the Luke's here and then we'll move on to the next. The print corner was already in place, so you need something extra. Yeah, it's, it's not even that you need something extra. This is, this is a form of misconduct that needs to be addressed and that's what we're looking for there.

Should Kato have given a yellow card in that situation? Hell no. She needs to get medical attention and get off the pitch. But could her colleague step in and and award that card? Yes. Could the person who walks off the, that would be interesting if Bruce had walked onto the pitch afterwards and then given the yellow card then I've never thought about that before.

Wow. Okay. Take that into the server cuz it's already one. All right, let's go. Let's go. The injector faint on the pc. This should be pretty short. I don't even have to run a pole, but I wanted you to see this because we don't see it penalized or we don't see it occurring very often, so the more examples we can see, the better.

Okay.

Okay, so as for the rules, the injector's getting sent to the central line, the injector is being sent to the central line. Did I say that? I don't know. And then the penalty corner is in play. So this is what it looks like. I've really isolated in with him, and you could just hear the whistle peep in this case.

Okay, so the whistle peep goes, and then he stands up and he resets. Okay. If anybody has any questions as to whether this is rightfully called a faint, do you let me know? One of the points that the commentators, in this case, it was Charlie who was saying like, I don't understand this. Why? Why is it fair that the injector gets sent and then they get to bring somebody else in and they can have a full compliment to players?

And it's simply because there's no maximum number of players other than how many players you have on the pitch prescribed in the rules that attackers can use when attacking a penalty corner. So you can't enforce it. There's zero enforceability here. Because at any point, unless you said, well, you can't change players around, well, you have to be able to change players around.

So there would have to be a change in the rules that say that the replacement injector has to be from the players who are currently at the top of the circle. But what about players who are just off? What? What about a player who's at the five meter? What? What about a player who's 10 meters away could get awfully messy?

Awfully messy. And again, it's another rule that we shouldn't have to worry about as an umpire, cuz it just isn't that important. Okay.

Away you go. Sunshine . Yeah. I knew what he was doing.

I, yeah, I mean, who knows what excuse he gave. Yeah. Very happy. Okay. Excellent. That was the fastest one we've ever used. This is gonna take a lot longer, a sliding attacker, and in one of the cases leads to an injury.

Okay. This all happened last night.

Oops.

Disengaged supporting.

Very speedy. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. That's a good point. Because somebody, somebody's gotta go. Somebody's gotta go. And it really isn't fair that it's a defender in this case.

Ben. Ben, I'm getting to it. Ben, stop it. I'm just gonna turn on a couple lights here. Talk amongst your.

Oh, how about I give you a pole? How about I give you a pole?

Just gimme a sec. Okay. I'm gonna have to change the options cuz I only get to put four up. So,

oops. I just used fhc instead of fhd. You know, you're Canadian when? Um,

Let's go with this. Okay. That's good enough for the options.

Was anything done about the contact and you're going to the shove? Yeah. Let's, let's not worry ourselves about that. Yes. Granados not happy. But let's, let's try to focus, because this is important to understand this, and we saw yellow tens for this in the Commonwealth Games. A little unsure when it feels like it was off ball.

So PC stands, yellow card to 10. Yellow card 10 to the attacker. Okay, Scott Riley agrees with you. Adam agrees. Defenders set. So William wants a 10 minute yellow, 10 minute yellow and free hit defense for the slide, taking the player to ground. Okay. Uh, hand above hip on the defender and taking her out. Um, well, Nick, hold my beer.

Okay. So we talk about this frequently, and as you know, I still have quite a bit of, I have a lot of issues with what I think could be

an overzealous interpretation of what requires, what a mandatory 10 minute yellow card, when it should be applied and when it shouldn't. I don't like the fact that the wording and the briefing confuses a sliding tackle, that a sliding tackle can be. Committed by an attacker because it can't tackles have to be attempts by players to dispossess a player with the ball.

That is what a tackle is. So get the word straight cuz it matters. And the reason why sliding tackles are such a problem is because a player has their eyes on the ball and is trying to do something magnificent with it, such that they can't protect themselves, they can't see a slide coming. Whereas a player who doesn't have the ball has a completely different vision set.

And yes, I know the best players in the game are often looking up off the ball and they can do amazing stuff. I get it. Okay. But that's literally the top 10% of the top 1%. Okay, the top 50% are the top 1%. It's a very small number of players. Everybody else has to worry about the ball that is at their feet on their stick.

That makes them especially vulnerable, which is why the mandatory tenement yield card makes sense. It doesn't always make sense to me when it's an attacker who's sliding towards a defender, and that's why I do think that there is a scope in some situations for it to be a five minute yellow card.

Dangerous, reckless, but not as dangerous and not as reckless as a sliding tackle. That said, I've got no problem in this situation, that this is a high vulnerability, 10 minute yellow card. Because the player is looking, the ball is not anywhere near where that attacker is sliding from. She can't, she can't possibly see this coming, so it's very dangerous.

So I would've expected a 10 minute yellow cart here. Unfortunately, there wasn't a.

And I think there could have been scope here. Um, when did it happen in the game quarter two. Germany may not have felt comfortable in referring this one. Okay. Or maybe they just didn't know the rules well enough. Germany has a new captain. I, I think Lorenzen has been captain for several games, but this is kind of her first real stint in the captain seat and she's already struggled with some of the rules already.

Um, it'd be really great to see players who take that captain's role be a little bit more. Of where things are. Cuz I, I, I think that no question they could have referred that it was and said, we want a free hit defense for even the obstruction because the ball, it, it goes off that the germ player's foot, you could call that for a third party potentially, but it would've attracted the sanction.

And that recommendation can come from the video in park, um, restart the pc, five minute yell from the attacker. See, that's the one I like the best. But I, I totally understand why people are going for the 10 minute yell card. I just, I'm losing this battle. I'm losing this battle against attackers and defenders being lumped in the same boat, mostly because it's in the bloody briefing.

I just think it's wrong because you get really incongruous calls and I've reviewed them on streams. Where, uh, an attacker slides in, it's really gentle. The defender's watching it going and going, oh, okay, I'm gonna trip over this person. Why should that attract a 10 minute yellow card? Zero, zero reason for it.

And that literally happened in, was it the men's World Cup? And it was Canada, India, and Dan Barstow felt that he had to give a 10 minute yellow card because of what the briefing said. But the Canadian player who was diving away from the defender and the defenders running towards the ball as well, and they were running like this, and the, the attacker was well down, and the defender kept running at him and kind of hopped over him 10 minute yell card.

Wow. You know, it could, it doesn't make sense. And if you wanna see that footage come into the server and I'll dig it up for you, and that's fine. And, and it, it's reckless and it's very dangerous in this situation because of where the ball is in that. That's how I support a 10 minute yellow card. How, how does the empire see this in real time?

He's watching the ball in the circle. What the defensive runner is doing, whether the shot is dangerous. Yep. But that's why he's got a colleague. That's why he has somebody to say, what did you see? I and the colleague can easily say, and this is what your colleague should be watching for in these situations, can say, oh yeah, that's a reckless and highly dangerous and injurious slide That needs to be a 10 minute yell card.

Stefan. Oh, to you two, Nick, you're giving a 10 at yellow. And,

but Nick, yeah, and that's okay. That's okay to to say that there. I just wanna be very careful. We have to keep our language precise. Because otherwise we get into really ridiculous. We open ourselves up to other facts, situations that fit those words, but don't fit the spirit of what the rule is.

Okay? First of all, she didn't go off her feet. She's still on her feet. She's sliding on her feet, but she's also sliding on her butt. Okay? So I, I, I don't, I don't mean to be picky, but we can get ourselves trapped. And when we're talking to players and we're talking to coaches, and we're trying to develop a consensus in the community as to what the rules really say, it doesn't help us If we start using slang and we use the phrases that we hear from other people, let's not normalize bad language practices, because it'll get us in the end, and you hear it when umpires are on audio, and then they're sending up a referral and they'll say the wrong words, and then the commentators are like, oh, well that's not the rule.

That's not the way it goes. And then the defenders are all arguing and everybody's all mad. That's the standard that we're applied to. And I know it's not, doesn't necessarily seem fair, but it's there. Okay. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna end this poll. I'm not gonna do the two minute warning on this one though.

College should get that call. Whoops. Call she get that call. Absolutely. Well, I mean, she can have her ankles broken, you know, uh, strain of ligament or something like that. Luckily a ruse was okay. She came back into the game after this. So it's there. If the player goes to ground off a sliding, but sees a slide coming, that's still wrong.

Yes, it's still wrong, but it doesn't necessarily need a 10 minute mandatory penalty. That's the distinction I'm trying to draw. It could, it could still be, I could still see somebody coming, but if they're coming so fast at me, I don't have a chance in hell of getting outta the way. That should still be a 10 minute yellow card if that attacker is coming with that much venom.

But what I'm saying is when we remove the nuance of different l different words, and different scenarios, and, and, and we just get to a black and white player has slid made contact, that's a 10 minute yell card. I say Fuck off. Because, because we need to see all of the elements together for it to fit into that bang.

Here's the big penalty, 10 minute yell card box. Hi, Dale Inglewood. Set above. It's a set play. See the sliding in for a deflection. Um, yep. It's a set play. Possibly the word tackle could be used in the context of the game of rugby, but it can't be because the rules of hockey are clear and I'm not gonna have the rules of hockey available.

Let's see if I can pull 'em up really, really fast. That's not bad.

Okay. Uh, there, okay. Tackle is a defined term in our rule book, so I don't care what any other sport ball says. We actually have a defined term, and this is what the term says, an action to stop an opponent retaining possession of the ball. Okay? So that means it's an opponent who has possession of the ball.

Otherwise, it's not a tackle, it's something else. And that's why I say saying an attacker tackling, it's impossible because you don't have possession of the ball. , the person that they're attempting to or the person that they are sliding into does not have possession of the ball. Therefore, it can't be a tackle and a story change the definition.

Okay? We can. But not under the rules that we have.

And Luke is starting to understand how I think. There you go. . Yeah, I'm glad I'm, I'm glad. And, and again, slippery pitches. You have other considerations to take into account. Okay, let's take this pole in and just see what everybody's saying here.

So we had 77% with a 10 minute yellow. Okay. And five, uh, sorry. 14% with a five minute Y card and a restart with no call. . 8%. Definitely not. It's gotta be a card. Okay. Good work. In contrast, just a few hours later we saw this. Oops. Why did it start there? That doesn't make any sense. Here's another pc.

I'm amazed at how a player can be, can be surprised by a side tackle when they have their arms up in the air like that, cuz that's not a place that they would normally be. But

I'm gonna put that aside.

Yeah.

Okay. The graphic was wrong. It was a 10 minute suspension there. Okay. One of the things that, I mean, now that I'm watching, it kind of troubles me cuz that defender absolutely knew it was coming, but, okay. I love how Rachel handled the situation just from a demeanor aspect. Okay. So she makes sure she gives that yellow, and then you've got an Argentinian player.

Just watch, watch, just watch what she does in this situation. This Habib has no business walking up in this moment. No business whatsoever. I have no idea. He's probably arguing about something else, but Graham Bush actually does the right thing and walks away, but watch her face. Okay. She maintains eye contact.

She looks at him and says, stop. And he walks away. So good. So good. Okay, so this was a 10 minute yellow card, and, and it's even like, it's kind of less deserved than the other one in a, in a sense, because the defender sees it coming and turns and he puts his arms up like this. But I'm okay. It's pretty high pace.

It's pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't have expected him to get outta the way at this one. Okay. And you're not sure about that one, like now that, now that I've seen it back a few more times because I literally just clipped this about half an hour ago. And Yes. And, and that's the thing. It's like both feet forward, it's really, really poor.

Um, Dale, where you at? Uh, so sorry. You meant the action looked more like a game of rugby. Oh, okay. It, it, no it's not. And again, it's that, that is quite a hockey action. I am not against player. Really amazing things happen when players slide on the pitch. I'm really against players sliding into other players and causing them injury.

I love seeing sliding deflecting goals like the next person. I love seeing a player sliding and and retaining the. Possession of the ball and not letting it go out of bounds. Ma Granado does that all the time. She's like sliding and then she does this like pivot on one of her hands and her body swings around and she swings her stick around a bloody great.

I'm sure she trains the skill. So good.

And you get what I'm saying there. There you go. Um, yeah, I mean, and this is where our skills and the rest of our life come into play as we umpire Chris Palmore here, just pointing out that Rachel's a police officer and yeah, you're just, you're not gonna have a problem with this. If you want to be a better umpire, can you expose yourself to professional situations, personal situations, uh, vocational situations where you have the opportunity to develop your composure, your presence?

Your ability to maintain that eye contact, the variety in your face, whatever, whatever tools could be at your disposal here, can you develop them in the rest of your life? And that, I think is really, really important. , I don't know what GBH is. Rachel's knowledge of the law around g B H's, ex exemplary, I dunno what that is.

And yes, and, and she's an example. She's a great example of how to deal with this situation. She's not worried whatsoever about this guy . So good. No. Um, Nicky wasn't, it was, that was a mistake on the graphic. He served 10 minutes. I watched the whole game, so, and I'm, I don't know if that's what he's doing, but he's pointing up there somewhere else as well.

Who knows?

But doesn't matter what he said. Rachel just said stop. That's it. Okay. Really nice conversation. How we doing? Oh boy.

Let's move on. This one should not take very long either, but I wanted to mention it because it did get shown off.

Sorry. Dance moment. Oh, okay. The music's over. Taking it old school overhead lob on goal. Okay. And. In the server, a few people asked, and I slowed that down as slowly as I possibly could.

Should the goalkeeper have been given five meters to receive this ball? No.

Please, please, please take this, absorb it into your, into your percentage. Embrace it. Hold it tight. Not every ball that comes down outta the air, even though it fits the words of falling raised ball, requires a receiver, an initial receiver who should be given five meters in which to play the ball. This is a shot on goal.

It's a shot on goal. Therefore, it's not an aerial pass. It's not an intentional movement of the ball from one player. Who to, hopefully one of their teammates, that requires a level of protection that is starting to work its way out of the game. We know that the rules have been getting more and more and more relaxed on, on this, and more latitude for interceptions.

Moral latitude for advantage, moral latitude to what is receiving the ball and putting it down on the ground. On the ground just doesn't exist anymore because, hey, we play in 3D now. So this is not an aerial situation that requires a five meter distance and,

and you say, great skill. Okay, no danger. Anyone. Now I, oh, is this paused? This is not looping at all. So I did take a very close look as best I could at what happens right around the point. There is an attacker and a defender on the goalkeeper's right shoulder who are close, and there could be a stick in the air.

Who knows? Very difficult to see with this. Level of like, I don't know if that's the goalkeeper stick or the attacker stick. I don't know, but it looks like she's okay. It's actually her own teammate that kind of gets in her way at the end of the day. I'm gonna go with the umpire's call on this one because he's right there.

It's an American umpire in the right position. Can we just applaud that for a moment? Sorry. Shots are not aerial passes. Thank you. We don't. It is a super cool. I love it. Kudos for the skill. Exactly. Awesome. Okay,

many high fives. Cell five, yet another red card. Oh my goodness.

Last weekend, I assume, I think this is Neil's, correct me if I'm wrong. Um, oh, I can't remember who it is now. We'll see it in the next slide because I'll bring it up.

I don't think there's any question here in the, that a red card needs to be awarded to this player. I slowed this down as much as possible. As well cuz it was just kind of weird. Oops. Oops. I don't want that up yet. It was a, it was a weird way to, it didn't look like his weight was falling off to that right hand side that much.

His left foot did. It appears get caught underneath the defender a little bit.

So, I dunno, I'm, there's a lot of accusations of diving on this one. However, watch everything that happens before the actual moment of contact and the player goes over top. This is the fourth quarter.

Very late in a very close and probably quite heated game.

And there is way too much going on here. Way too much. I think it's, I think it's three. One for, um,

for the winning team. Hdm.

Okay. And of course it's a Des Hoofed class. Okay. Uh, thanks to Cal, uh, DeSantos for bringing the response of the player to my attention. And this is what he said. Um, and this is a Google Translate, uh, translation. Neil's rightly pointed out that nobody would say he got word out of his tent, but we get the idea.

He basically said, I got baited. I sh it wasn't smart of me, but he says the movement of my shoulder must have been fatal. Now I'm interested, actually, Niels, if you can tell me about that, seems to be kind of a sardonic comment. Like, oh, it must have been fatal, that my shoulder moved that much. Oh, that's really fatal.

Which is a really backhanded way. That's, you know, when we see people making apologies and they basically deride the criteria in which is applied to them. Uh, you kind of go, really? Is that, is that how, how you have to, are you gonna play it like that? Is that how it's gonna go? Thinking that it wasn't all that bad, is what he's saying.

I was really frustrated that I couldn't actually get more of this game. Uh, because I say over and over again, over and over again, red cards do not come from nothing, and that is not enough at this level of play for a, a player to react that much. We have to look after players on the pitch when they present us the opportunities to intervene and set our standards.

Now, here is, let's see if I can get this working properly. I want you to, uh, to, to listen. Hopefully it works.

Okay, so this was just a few days ago, the most recent episode. And, and just for full context, if you're like, what the hell are they talking about? This is, um, this is Brendan and Phil Roper talking about. , um, a match that they described on the last episode between Brooklyn's and Ston, where it was apparently just an absolute slug fest.

And please, I don't mean this to shade the umpires who were on that game, but the conversation, the way that the players were reacting after the game to what they saw was nothing was being dealt with. And you heard it right there, you heard it right there. There's Phil saying, I talked to one of the players and he said, well, the umpires weren't giving any cards, so I figured I would just see what I could get away with.

If that isn't enough, my friends, to convince you that we have to do our jobs in order to stop that kind of nonsense. I give up, I literally give up. That is straight out of horse's, mouths, player's mouth. I didn't mean to call you guys horses. That seriously wasn't my intention. If you. Do not give cards when they are needed.

And you say, oh no, I've, I've clocked that one the next time. Next time I'm gonna give a warning. The next time I'm gonna get the next one. You're behind the eight ball, you are behind and the players don't know where you're coming from. Don't think that you're doing them many favors, cuz you're not. Cuz what you're doing is you're making sure that the enterprising players amongst them, if the competition is intense enough, they don't know where they stand.

They don't know what they can and cannot do. So they're gonna do it all. And I think they're justified. So don't try to keep players on the pitch because they'll be going off the pitch later on with red cards and that my friends, Is most of our show. I'm gonna go with, uh, I'll go see some comments here.

I'll go into the replay so we can see

there's body contact on the tackle. Okay? It's not just a dive. He first gets broken down by the player that comes in and nibbles behind. Okay? That was the first whistle that should have blown right there. And he has the ball in a stick and he has the opportunity to keep going. Buddy will call something earlier.

in this, okay? There is body contact. Does it necessitate the degree of reaction? I don't know. And I don't care. I don't care. That's not the point. If y'all wanna sit here and dissect whether something's a dive or not, because that's how sport ball works, I don't give a shit. Okay? That's not important. They took that out of the bloody briefing cuz we're not supposed to care about it.

And I created a PowerPoint . I sure did. The reaction of the player is a red card because it's after the play. It's not hockey, it's violent. I think the defender falls down pretty darn easily as well. Okay. There's a lot of that. But all of this is escalated because things haven't been dealt with in the moment and I can absolutely bet my bottom dollar I would pay, I would mortgage this apartment I'm living in right now on, I could go back to something that happened in the first quarter of this game I bet.

And things not being dealt with.

Yep. Yellow for the defender. No clear way to tackle the ball on the pc. Yeah, Rado, it's, it's a little bit difficult. He, I, I, I think so. I think that's right because although he gets the ball cleanly in order to get the ball cleanly, he also dives on the ground, makes body contact with an attacker. . Okay, so we're back in the sliding tackle category almost.

Except it's not a slide. It doesn't have to be a slide. And Nick is with out of love. Yeah, I think it's a bit sarcastic too, don't you? Um, yes. And he's, and he's trying to get free. He got suckered into it. Yeah, I'm, things are complicated. There's a lot of nuance going in here, but our job is to make sure that this never happens.

Even though it makes for lots of views on Instagram and lots of like angry comments and lots of funnies and lots of ha hahas and tagging people and blah, blah, blah. Yay. Great visibility for the sport. It's our job to make sure that players can play this game to the best of their ability. That is not the best hockey that's ever been played, so we don't want that to happen.

Ah, the Cat speaking is a, I was gonna say, you're getting really good at this Cat. It's coming along. Yes. And he waved play on and that was,

that was a tough call. Yes. We have to use now. Absolutely. Thank you, Inga. Thank you. Setting boundaries is important as Jeanette, and he may not react at the same way if the big whistle had gone off. Yeah. Who knows?

And that was my memory.

Wait, can, I don't think I can play it off this Here, let's just do it. Retroactively

ran to the week. Oh, I have to go back. I have to go back and turn it off.

Stain. My point is, every red card, almost every red card can be prevented. That's what I believe in my heart of hearts, after watching thousands, now I can say I've watched thousands of games.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe because he's probably like, I didn't get called for that. Ha ha ha. Yeah. But, but they've been, they've been, this has been mounting all game. All game. They've been going at each other. I bet. I bet. Any money. If somebody can get me the footage of this whole game, please, we'll do a watch party.

We'll sit down. And somebody can take over my apartment mortgage if I'm wrong, but I know I'm not. I know it. Uh, yeah. I don't think he was in a great spot. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that was part of it. It's tough because this whole play develops in what I kind of would say is in a no person's land. The, it's not on the front side of the play.

It's not on the backside of the play. It's in the middle of the pitch. It's moving across. It's like all the ambiguities all in one place. But I bet the backside on par had a better view. So we're gonna give a little. You know, we're g we're definitely gonna give some leeway to this, um, to the umpire in this situation because there's a lot of traffic in front of him and he's deep because you'd be worried about this getting into your circle very quickly.

He's gotta make mission critical calls and his colleague probably has the space in front of them in order to be able to see what's happening. Okay. So I agree with that.

Okay. Um, George agrees. Thank you. It's a good, good idea to agree with me after I've just had a rant of the week about it. , it'd be super awkward if you were like, no, I just think the players do whatever they wanna do. Cher. Okay.

Oh Kat, this is an inside joke because the first match Kat did in the Netherlands was an under 12 game because they didn't trust her qualifications and they were like, oh, oops, you're pretty good. Maybe we should give you under 14 next time. So I'm like, at her rate, maybe she'll be hook casa in, you know, six weeks or 12 weeks or something.

Cuz she'll just step up every time. Very funny. Okay. Yes, and this is a bunch. You're not bullshit. I love it. Okay. Wow. Okay. Only 10 minutes overtime. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Don't forget, it's the last several days, I can't count, I don't know, last six days, something like that. To get your $5 off this workshop.

I'm so excited about it. I've been watching. What's been happening with the new season of the Pro League and watching umpires to certain degrees, trying it, not trying it, and watching the mistakes they're making and I, and watching them succeed. And I can't wait to incorporate that into the new, you know, and just emphasize those points in the material.

So make sure you go sign up fh empires.com/cp. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be fun. And thank you very much, Dee, for the link. And. As always, if you want to help us with the material that I bring up on these, these rants, if you'd like to, to trigger me, you can. Let's see if I can take that. Is this gonna work?

Let's try this.

Make sure you head into the Discord community, fh aras.com/ds. It's free. It's free, and if you're a member, you get to do more fun things and you get access to special areas, and we're gonna give you so much fomo. You're gonna be like, ah. But it's free to be a member. So come on in, come chat with the gang.

I am basically in there all the time. I think the Discord server is now embedded in this ish area of my brain. I'd love to see you there. You're very welcome. That was a good one. Thank you very much. We did get through a lot of stuff and yes, the third team, oh, I forgot about that. Go follow that link. It's a good.

That's good. Look, thanks Janette. It was nice to see you there. We are gonna hang out in the local, in the voice channel, in the Discord server for a little while. Uh, I've gotten till two before I have my next meeting, so let's get in there. Good to see you Rachel. And don't forget all of you. Enjoy the rest of your hockey and be awesome.

Bye now.

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