#TheBreakdown Ep. 168

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Welcome back everybody, and welcome back to me. It is an FHumpires live stream. Let me know if everything is working because look, the layer of dust that I had to blow off my live streaming software was pretty thick. I was like, it was some serious spring cleaning to be done, apparently last February. I shouldn't even admit to it.

I should just pretend it's just been a hot minute, and that's about it. But there you go. Um, I, I have no idea. I got really confused trying to, I don't know if you know, I was trying to decipher this one. What? I, I just can't. I can't. Somebody can, can translate that for me. And there you go. Yeah. This is interesting.

Everybody's got a, um, everybody's got a number except Quentin, you don't have a number. Good to see you. Thank you very much.

And I just want to draw some special attention to King Charles here. What are you doing with your life? Also, I will mention this, although that um, there is a certain New Zealander who drew my attention a few years ago because he did exactly what you are doing right now and watched every single What Up Wednesday. And I'm just gonna say that he's turned into a mighty fine umpire and turning into a pretty freaking skilled umpire coach. So if you're doing this stuff, you are on the right track, just saying. I hope he was probably gonna be all those things anyway, but there you go.

Um, Rupert, good to see you. That is fabulous.

And you're okay. Um, oh look, there are gonna be so many mishaps tonight. Please. This is a, gonna be a judgment free zone. And the other thing I want you to keep in mind is that not only is the software rusty, but this is rusty. It has been a long time since I've talked to a piece of glass in this sort of way, and tried to keep an eye on the comments, and tried to think on my feet.

And so this wasn't a, oh, let's, let's just ease in with a few easy clips. No, no, no. We're just gonna dissect the Rules of Hockey that just came out on February 28th at about 8:00 PM which is pretty crazy. Tom, good to see you. Um, so, oh, wait, oh yes. Topics. I can do this. Got it. Here's our new topics. Here's our new stinger.

We're gonna explain the new rules. We line by line, oh my God. We're gonna do the new briefing as well and review that. And then I'm gonna take a few minutes to explain what's going on with the radios, because it's been a thing. It's been a thing, and it explains a lot about why I've been gone for so long.

Actually, if you know anything about stuff, livestream: February, March agreed to buy a business to add to FHumpires. And then it's been a series of fun adventures ever since. So there you go. Um, did, oh, did I not fix that? Yeah. See, there you go. 2006. There you go. Why not? I've had it on my brain because 20 years ago was the very inception of FHumpires.

So if that ever comes up in your pub trivia, you now know, okay, let's get, let's get going because we're not gonna have fun videos to watch. I'm not gonna be, you know, it's not gonna be like pretty pictures of hockey players doing amazing things. Um, oh, was it the briefing? Yeah. Okay. See, it's, I told you, I told you it was gonna happen.

Let's get going. Let's, that says 2026. I did that part right. Oh, okay. Actually, let's, let's, let's just do this for a hot minute because Woo. Yeah. Effective March 1st. Now, before we talk about any of this stuff, these rules will not apply to you in your local competition unless you happen to be playing at the World Cup qualifiers right now.

That started on March 1st, so I started getting the notifications around eight-ish on the Friday night, and then, and Friday night was the 28th or the 27th. I can't remember, but my goodness. Not a lot of notice. What I'm hoping to find out about later is that they kind of, somebody from the rules committee is like, Hey, everybody who's playing in the World Cup qualifiers in Somalia and in Santiago, here's a little, here's a little hot tip, here's a little thing.

Here's, here's a, an advance notice of the changes. Because although there aren't many substantive changes as we'll review the aerial rule, which we all knew was coming, that is one of them. That is a substantial change, I think, and a lot of the teams who are at the, um, at the World Cup qualifiers have not been playing the trial in their particular competitions, so that's very important to know.

Godder still didn't have hair. Back in the day. I didn't help you out whatsoever. So that was Saturday. Yeah, and the matches started on Sunday. So it was on the 27th that it got released. See, still, still didn't quite get that right. Okay. There buttons work. Do you remember this from the last time that we did a, a whole rules thing?

‘Cause I do, I remember how we, how we went through Draftable. This is a fabulous, um, online service, and it's a desktop piece of software that I think costs a lot of money. But I'm using the free trial just so I can show this to you. Budget. I know how to stick within it.

So yes, we are kicking back, let's see, to, um, January, 2022 for the last rule book.

So it's been a long time in coming to get this done. But here it is. So I'm gonna try to focus on the important stuff and not all the little grammatical things because, um, Quentin actually, uh, posted something in our discord server, FHumpires.com/ds if you would like to join in the discussion there where, um, we, he went through some of the grammatical changes that, that got buffed up.

And as a, um, uh, what is it a, a poly Poly got? Is it a poly Got that speaks many languages. You're at least bilingual, Quentin. And so you're obviously very interested in these sort of things. And I gotta say, for all the grammatical fixes that have been made, um, I'm here for it. I'm just not gonna talk about it.

But I really do applaud anything that makes the grammar better. Um, but they did spend a lot of time in the introductory section. I hope they spent just as much time in the substantive part. So this is interesting here. Let's see, do I have it on? So giving you a little sneak preview of what's to come that they didn't wanna make substantial changes before the World Cup.

And also that there might be substantial changes coming after the World Cup. There will be in effect for international competition January 1st. And that's, um, got a lot of people to tizzy thinking about penalty corner revisions. And that might, that might be the case. Who knows? Polyglot. Oh, I was so close.

Thank you. You guys are all so smart. Um, let's see. Oh, this is, this is gonna fold off, but they're talking about, um. There's a nice summary in the introduction section about the changes. And so obviously the rule changes from 2022 are very, this is gonna be extremely different from the rule changes in 2026.

But let's just, um, I don't know why this won't stay or it needs to stay, maybe if I do it this way. Nope, it doesn't like that. Um, but there's a lot of verbiage in here, in here. Um,

but this is also interesting. Look at this. Friends of the friends of of FHumpires. Simon Mason, thank you very much. Glad, glad you're on it. Um, nice to see, um, Renee as a, uh, PAHF representative. Um, whole new sloth. Um. Sloth. Um, slate. That's what I was trying to say. Slate. But that is one key addition.

Everybody knows who Barry Dancer is and he's got some very innovative ideas. And if you know anything about his past commentary on penalty corners and that sort of thing, he's not a fan of the penalty corner, which is why a lot of people are getting excited about the idea that we may be doing away with them, at least in the format that they're in.

Okay. So there's lots of little dashes. Okay. That's not exciting. We're just gonna start getting into it here. Okay.

Um, so they've updated the penalty for the captain when too many players are playing on the pitch. Okay. It's not actually saying that it must be a yellow card because it does say “inadvertently for a very short period of time.”

Um, you know, let's not get too stressed about it. Uh, that doesn't materially affect the match, but if it does materially affect the match, it has to be yellow card. So they're removing the discretion or the wiggle room that we would often use in domestic levels for a green card. So there you go. That's gonna be one thing.

Um, that's just grammatical and please feel free to throw in your questions. Things that you notice that I haven't quite properly pointed out. This seems to be scrolling better. That's good. Um, and that's fabulous. Okay. So, uh, Tess Howard is gonna be very happy with this, that this is now enshrined in the rules that, uh, players within a team can choose to wear shorts, a skort or a skirt, uh, regardless of gender, regardless of what anybody else is wearing.

So, uh, big fan of that. Um, I happen to like skirts, but I really like choice and I like choice that is going to be inclusive for everybody. Okay. Um, they've stepped up the pressure on face mask, okay. To defend a penalty corner or a penalty stroke. They recommend the face mask now. Uh, that's why I'm just never gonna defend one of those again.

Okay. But that's, that's it. There's no other changes to protective equipment and clothing and. I think there's a lot of room for improvements. Okay. Especially in this guidance section here. We've had discussions on past live streams. If I think back to 2006, I think it was, um, we did talk about how this is very ambiguous drafting and it can mean a lot of things to a lot of people.

So I'm hoping that they, um, are gonna be revisiting that. It shouldn't make any substantial changes, but it should provide some clarity about whether the leg guards are part of that, whether the knee pads are part of that. If somebody wants to wear knee pads for the entire match, who cares? That should be fine, but yes.

And so, um, Quentin, yes. Local regulations will always vary these sort of things. Equipment, um, the periods of play can be varied, all that sort of thing. That's why you have to understand how the rules and the regulations of your competitions, um, intersect and how they don't overlap with other people's regulations and that sort of thing.

So, um, that, that regulation that requires penalty corner, penalty corner masks to be worn throughout the entire PC until the PC is completed has caused some issues about what happens if a player takes one off early. And Rupert, I think this is something that you pointed out in one of your, uh, clips in the server about, uh, an American defender who as soon as the ball got, you know, sort of clear of her own space inside the circle, ripped off her mask, threw it, but the penalty corner clue wasn't over because the ball was still within the circle and none of the other. Um, methods of completing the penalty quarter it occurred, so there you go. Okay.

Um, a little fluff and buff for the match duration. Okay. Expressly saying that you can derivate from the requirement to play, um, quarters, um, and what the intervals are. So it's interesting that they doubled down on this and they, they added some extra wording because I know that there's a lot of coaches who aren't big fans of this, and they, and I,

I was listening to, um, a Let's Stick Together podcast where Uncle Orch was on, Simon Orchard, and I thought he made a really good argument about, against quarters and how the, the duration of the halves actually gave you more, gave teams that had more of a physical fit presence on the pitch gave them an advantage because you didn't have that two minute break, um, where the weaker team could regroup and the momentum would, would catch up. The mental fatigue of not having that chance to, to stop and get some more instructions from your coach actually makes a significant difference at a lot of levels of play and especially, um, international.

And I hadn't heard it really expressed that way before. I, I like quarters because as an umpire who's of a certain age, I just like getting a break because it gives me a chance to, to have that reset with my colleague, but totally makes sense when it's explained like that.

Um, this. Let's see what, what exactly does, what have they changed here?

I think this is just sort of fluffing and buffing in the case of an award of a penalty corner without the conditions being met, in case the conditions of a bully. Yeah, this is all gr grammar, so that's just that clear wording, which is totally fine. So things are going pretty good so far. We're doing all right. We're doing all right.

Um, but now you can see in eight two, this has been added. And whenever you see the, the black bar, when you're going to review this on your own, you see the black bar that's legally used for change in contract. So they're enshrining the stoppage of time after a goal and restarting, and that just now takes that out of international regulations and puts that into the full Rules.

And I think there's a lot of domestic competitions that are gonna vary this because from what I understand, it's a, um, a big imposition when you have such very, uh, constrained time blocks to get matches done, that even a five minute overage can have knock on impacts for the rest of a day that a club is hosting. So there you go.

Um, let's see what we've got here. Um, desperately hope and you don't push the 10 minute halftime out to recreational. Yeah, no, and, and, and obviously you can, you know, this is where you would vary this. And let me tell you, I mean, I. I had a seven or an eight minute halftime declaration made by the players, um, given to me by the teams in the, in the last match I umpired.

And they all walked out after five minutes and I said, thank goodness, 'cause I'm bored already. And they were like, yeah, let's go. And it, you know, that was fun. So there you go. New edition. Um, oh, winning toss, choose one. Then opponent has choice. Choose the other. Opponent has no choice. Choose the other. Oh wait, how did I miss this?

What rule is this?

So this isn't a change. It just so happened that my cursor highlighted that. So there's no change there. Um.

Yeah. So I think we're okay on that one. Cool, cool, cool. Okay.

Grammar or clarity. Okay. Obviously. Oops. Obviously this is the big one. Okay. Nine, 10. Boom.

I would've liked to see this, um, language changed from falling ra, falling raised ball to falling raised pass, and then pass being a defined term, but that's fine. Um, hopefully that'll come in the 2027 Rules of Hockey. And, uh, you can't approach within five metres of an opponent receiving an aerial until it's been touched by the receiver.

So that's a glancing contact. Anything. Um, and then the interception rules are exactly the same. Um, let's see. How does 8.2 interact with our desire to keep the quarters in the house district time? Um, then we're just left to card captains. Well, yeah, but we, we still, Steven, have all of our management tools available to us and it's just, you know, it's, it's so that we're not restarting time when the players, you know, aren't out there and having the, the, the terrible, um, the result of, you know, a, a ball getting put in play when half the team is still on the wrong half, it's just messy, ugly, and nothing good can come to it. But you still have all of those tools available with your whistles and your voice and all that sort of thing, and I just find that it's on us. And if we do our jobs, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.

And if you're in a competition where you've now varied, what is the rule that time must be stopped after a goal is scored. Um, and, and that's in the context, right? That's still in the context of that time would be stopped for most people. So it, it's not a time wasting exercise. Maybe not for most people, but under the Rules of Hockey time would be stopped after that goal scored.

So it's about. Getting people into place nice and organized. And so there's, there's a reason behind all of the madness. And we still have, if you're not stopping time for goals, you do it the same way that you did all the other, all the other years. There you go. Bob. Good to see you. Uh, the number of times the coaches have requested seven, eight minutes.

Yeah, they've walked out over five and that I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. We're, we're here to serve the players and as long as you can fit it in the, um, in the time block and if you're doing the ones and that sort of thing, they obviously get a little extra props and, um, they, they get precedent priority.

They get priority over everybody else. So there you go. Um, yeah, it's a, it's a tiny change, isn't it, but has the biggest impact so. I think, and if there's anybody who'd like to go into this a little more, but my last live stream a year ago, more than a year ago, I went through what I had seen with the new aerials, and there has been nothing in the last year that's changed my mind that this is an absolutely fabulous, um, progression of the aerial rule.

And we are seeing fewer, uh, toss and hope balls into the circle that have turned into huge calls. Well, okay. That have turned into, um. Weird goals. Exciting goals, because the ball gets shelled outta midair, but weird because there's a defender who's stuck and doesn't know if they can close or not. And you're just not seeing those goals anymore.

You're not seeing full blooded outta air hit volleys hits. Um, I don't call them volleys because a volley, a volley indicates like a little bit of a bunt. These are full-blown, um, full blown hits and I think it's made it a lot safer for defenders in general as well as the goalkeepers there. Um, Jurjen, good to see you friend.

Why touched instead of played by the receiver, there's a perfectly good definition for played in the definition list, right? Good question. Okay, we're gonna come back to page 28 and let's just go have a look at it. Go.

Um, playing the ball field player, stopping, deflecting, or moving the ball with the stick. I think that we have

Yeah, that I, I, I think you're right in a sense.

Hmm. Make my brain break.

Because a def a deflection would, would take care of all that. Yeah. I think played the ball would've been fine. Maybe they're concerned that nobody reads the definitions, but there you go. Um, touch is clear that, well, and, and I think if you added or otherwise touched,

I mean, touch does cover a lot of the. Um, we would consider touch to be on the same level as play. So you wouldn't put touch underneath play as part of the definition.

Yeah, you're, you're not wrong. And I think there's a lot of merit from a legal drafting perspective to be consistent. Use the defined terms that you have and that's what I have a problem with, back to the penalty corner protection, um, equipment, is that it's not a defined term and then they use different terms and it gets very, very confusing as to what applies in that case. So we can't use, um, deflecting because we have goalies using deflect for after the back line. I'm not sure what that means, but come back to that. Okay.

If anybody has any questions more about the aerial rule in practice, maybe we'll come back to that. Um, um, let's see. Oh, good to see you friend. Um, touch may cover playing the ball with the body likely accidentally.

That's a really good point. There you go. Because if a player argues that they haven't played the ball because they didn't use their stick, then they can't be closed down. And then you get into a bit of a Mm. Um, chicken and egg who fouled first situation potentially, although I think you could always argue that the playing of the body happened first. That's good. But you can, you can see some people would get their shorts in a knot about that one. So I like that.

More technical terms should be defined, especially when they mean something other than just colloquial use. Yeah, absolutely. If a goalkeeper's, the initial receiver, can they touch the ball with their body intentionally?

Well, what I, um, yes, they, they absolutely may. And I only went through the definition of play with, um, field players because there isn't a definition of play for goalkeepers in the definitions. Right. This is getting so nerdy. I love it. Um, playing the ball field player. Correct. I'm so worried that I'm wrong about things that I'm going back to, to re-look at it because the manner in which goalkeepers are permitted to play the ball is defined under Rule 10, which I am getting to.

Okay. Um, because it's in 10.2(a), goalkeepers are permitted to when they have their stick in their hand, they can use their stick and body to deflect the ball or play the ball in any other direction. Um, and so they have a whole different set as well. So that seems fine.

I think Jurjen, to go back to your argument, they would have to take out, and they would have to insert a, playing the ball by goalkeepers and insert that definition and then reword, 10.2 to remove the redundancy. And then you could say, playing the ball.

Yeah. There you go. So Luke, you're, you're on the same page as me. Okay. Is this fun? Is this fun? Okay, so that's it. Nine 10. Um, it's, it's like our six seven. Let's, let's make this a thing. 9 10, 9 10. Let's not make it a thing. Right?

Uh, 9.16, nobody saw this one coming, but I think a lot of umpires are pretty happy about this one.

If the ball hits, um, a loose object, um, on the field that has not been thrown by a player play continues unless otherwise specified in 13. Okay. This is a, this is a big deal because if a stick has been dropped, that is a loose object that has not been thrown. Of course, throwing could be a defined term that would be helpful, but. Let's not get every single term defined. Let's see how many people screw this up. But this has always been my understanding that if a stick is dropped, if a, if a shin guard is dropped and the ball hits it, it's just play on. And that is going to be an adjustment for some umpires because I've seen penalty corners getting given for this and free hits getting given for this.

And players really do think this is a foul every time it happens. So, um, I like that because it's, it's one of those very unearned fouls. Um, I can understand the, the disadvantage argument, but no. Okay.

Um, so some grammar. Grammar, that's fine. We're not bothered. Um, so written record. Um, that's interesting because written is highlighted in the 2022, but the fact it's been removed, has it been highlighted by Draftable, uh, that it's not in the 2026. So Match Gear, Martijn, you're absolutely fine. There you go. Um, yeah, accidentally drop versus thrown. I mean, at the ball, you don't even wanna say at the ball because somebody could throw something.

And again, that opens the door. And the, and the discussion around Rule 13 and the penalty corner equipment, protective equipment that is removed and thrown, not just dropped, it doesn't accidentally fall out. Uh, you're taking off your mask and you're throwing it, you're throwing your gloves, all those sort of things. So, um. So I think that's an important distinction that you don't want to draw.

But on the same spirit, 11.8, if the ball hits an umpire or an unauthorized person, what happens if it hits an authorized person on the pitch, like a photographer, a ball patrol? Um, that's interesting. But I guess there would only be an unauthorized person on the pitch because in order to be an authorized person, you have to be an umpire or a player.

So, okay, that makes sense. Scratch that rewind. Nevermind. Um, okay, before I move on. Denman, uh, in the definition. So in the definition of is not thrown is a player removing PC equipment that is thrown towards a baseline then hits that is then Yes. So you're making, the argument that I'm making is that that is still thrown and should be captured under 13.

Quentin. It's a shame that the scenario when this happens in the zone wasn't clearly addressed because that's where it's critical. Um, when it's in the zone. Okay. Are we talking about, are you talking about 11.8? There you go. Uh, not written could also be an audio waiting recordings is a valid record.

Yes. Um, I agree. Everything digital. There you go. Oh, thank goodness. Thank goodness. 'cause I'm tired of Godders, streaking army. Okay, here's the other one. Uh, umpires. If it hits us, play shall continue as the contact results an advantage to one team. In such cases, the match shall be restarted with a bully.

And what, yeah, what a Quentin is referring to is a discussion that we've had in the Discord server, is that yes, they didn't specify unless the, unless a penalty corner is in progress. Um, except you would have this long section that, um, do note that a bully can't be awarded if a penalty corner is in progress.

Therefore, another penalty corner will be awarded in this situation. Um, there's, there could be a tidier way of doing that, but I think it's clear from how the rules progress naturally. That, that this doesn't preempt or it doesn't supersede the bully. Rules, um, that as regarding, as pertaining to penalty corners.

Okay? So if anybody has a question about that. So what this means is if you as an umpire are conducting a penalty corner and the ball hits you and you need to stop play because one of the teams is gonna be advantaged by it, either the ball drops to an attacker or the ball drops to a defender who wasn't otherwise gonna be able to do something awesome with it, that unfortunately you can't award the bully outside because a bully can't be awarded when the penalty corner is still in progress.

Okay? If you have a question at me.

Why did they ch It was clear beforehand. They changed this, Paul, because it really sucks when you, as an umpire, uh, deflect a ball into a goal that wasn't otherwise going to be a goal. Or you stop, you stop a shot that was going in the goal. It It is, absolutely. I, I think I've told the story before about how I was at the Canada West Championships in 2003, I think.

Holy crap, I'm so old.

And I was on the pitch and my colleague deflected a ball into a goal and it was a crucial pool game that determined which team went through to the semi-final. I mean crucial. It's kinda West Hockey under 21, nobody cares, and sorry to anybody who was playing at that time, and she got absolutely ripped by the team afterwards.

C, calling her incompetent and all that kind of stuff. She was maybe half a step, half a step out of position and it was just bad luck. She did umpire again at the Canadian level after that tournament. You know that, that sucks. Um, there's the famous clip from the EHL there. Well, Marcin's been hit like three times in front of the goal and changed stuff and, and he was one of them.

Hasn't happened to you in over 50 years. That's fabulous. I've been hit by the ball, but when I was already off the pitch and it was like shot into my legs and I couldn't get outta the way and I was really mad. But, um, Ross, so is it a re-awarded penalty corner when an umpire's hit during a PC? Yes. Uh, yes I can.

Elish. Good to see you. That's some good spam there. Good job. Okay.

Right. Uh, no change there. That's the old stuff. Good. Scrolly. Scrolly. Scrolly. Okay. Grammar.

Oh boy. I think we've got a change coming. This is a big block of blue. Whew. So this is sub N, um, sub N. Huh. So what did they do to get to M?

Okay, so they must have deleted N and placed it,

or they've just, they've just omitted it. There you go. Um, let's see. Godders: ball hits an umpire at PC, which otherwise would've gone off to end the PC.

But what happens to the ball? So does the ball, does the umpire keep the ball in play? Then that's advantaging a team and then it's gonna be another penalty corner and otherwise, right. I see what you're saying. I'm, yeah, I, I think I was, um, I was talking about this with someone earlier in the day and this, I was like, I know there's gonna be an instance where your intervention, because it disadvantages one team is going to advantage the other and this is the one.

Yeah. Advantage to the attack. It seems weird. I think you're right.

Um, yeah. You can argue that because it would've gone off, you have advantaged the attackers by the ball be popping back into play, therefore, um, because you would have to reword the PC, therefore,

there's nothing you can do. Yeah. You're still stuck. You're still stuck.

Does anybody see any other way around that? Please let me know because my brain is B stopped. Okay.

Elish, what's my opinion about the 10 minute breaks at halftime? Um, I, they're not saying that they have to be 10 minutes. They're saying that this is the rule that you then vary at your competition level. So all your local comp has to do is write in the regulations, teams shall agree to the length of their halftime break, and they could say something like, minimum five minutes maximum as stated by the Rules of Hockey. And then the teams, which is what they do now, right? So there you go. Um.

We're still gonna focus on this. Good. Um, this hitting the umpire rule, whatever the rule, um, yeah. Whatever the rule the FIH come up with, it's gonna be, it's gonna disadvantage someone. They're in a no win situation. Yeah. I think this is better. Um, there's, there's more winners now, but there will be a few weird situations, which are the same as the weird situations that have been existing ever since they said you can't call a bully for, um, for anything during the progress of a PC. But at the same time, it's, um, for most of the other circumstances except for this one, the way that my, um, brain is understanding it right now, the argument can always be made that a bully disadvantages the attack, um, because they don't get their PC again.

And then. They don't get the same level of opportunity that they were getting whilst the ball was in the circle during that penalty corner progressing. So somebody falls and is in danger and you have to stop time just to save their life. Well, it's not fair to the attackers that they can't continue to press that attack inside the circle.

So yes, someone is always screwed, um, in that sense. Okay. Is there anything else, um, with your back to the baseline, um, how can you be certain it would actually would've gone out? Um, well, hopefully you've got a good sense. There you go.

Um, yeah. But, but what, um, but the thing is, is if the ball hits you and it pops out. Would've bounced to an and bounces to an attacker, and otherwise it would've gone off and it could have gone off for a 23 metre restart or a 15 metre restart. Then you've advantaged the attack and you, because now they get to keep playing. So maybe in your head you've gotta think about whether that continuing to let the ball go is a worse opportunity than a pounding corner or not, because that's what you're essentially making a dec a decision on.

Yeah, you could, you could potentially play on, are you gonna be able to make that choice in that moment that's gonna be fair? Obviously, if it bounces to an unmarked attacker with a nice open goal, well, you know, you're gonna say no. PC PCO re-award is worse. As a, as a, as a lesser opportunity than that.

Therefore, I'm gonna reword it. But if it bounces out to an attacker who is, you know, deep on the baseline, out at the T and you know, has somebody closing in on 'em right away, then maybe you could say, ah, yeah, I think the defenders have a good chance there. That's gonna take some pretty good, um, chatting to, uh, to explain to teams why you didn't re-award the PC.

You can probably do that, but there you go. Uh, yeah, you girl is back. Nice to see you again. Um, let's see. What was the regular break in the, in the last rules? Um, it wasn't in the Rules of Hockey.

She says, not believing herself.

Let me know and Yes. Um. Your, your local regulations, you know, have, have been in place to enforce different half times. Either it'll be in a tournament regulation as to how long the half times usually are, uh, to, to get that. So yeah.

Goldie, what if neither team was within playing distance of the ball when it bounces out the, the umpire, then you, well then you're saying no team is disadvantaged, therefore we're just gonna play on, okay. But the concept of disadvantaged is gonna be a little bit broader than just whether a team was in within playing distance of that. Because a team can get within playing distance of it in rapid fashion, um, when it's, say, inside the circle. So. Uh, yeah, con consider that, but if it doesn't advantage anybody, then you can just play on as you, as you did before.

So I, I see Paul's point now, Paul Harriman's point about how it was more clear before it was less of a decision for us to make, but it gives us the opportunity to redress the really bad things that make umpires feel bad, that make teams angry, that change results in games. And that has to be considered more important than burdening us with one more decision I would think.

Okay. Did I, who did I miss? Um, Elish. You had another question. I think this is a good time to, how do you judge a illegal appeal to an umpire? Um, I have no idea what, uh, I, I don't know if you're asking me whether there are times when players shouldn't be asking questions of the umpire, and that's most of the time, um, because they're not asking questions, they're arguing with decisions.

But I don't know what an illegal appeal is. I don't know if you might be speaking about, um, video referral situations specific to international hockey. Uh, let me know what you really want me to get into on that one. So.

Yeah, you're, well, think of it this way. If you're in the circle and the ball hits you and goes into the goal.

Or the ball hits you and then it deflects off the back line. You've got a dead ball situation and you're gonna have time to think about it. That's the good news. I think when it really matters and you're in super panic stations, you'll have a chance to go, oh, the ball's off. You know what, boop, I'm gonna stop time, thought, and you'll be able to work it out if you, if you need that much time. So I think that'll be there. Okay.

Let's dive through this one. What are we at? Oh my God, it's already 80 t Oh no, sorry. I, I, I thought I'd started at seven, but I started at seven 30. Still this is very long. Okay. Yes, Paul, this is, as you pointed out, a lot of the section that was part of do, do, do, do, do. Let me put your comment up, uh, from 2.4.

So. It's an interesting approach because it gives us, I think, more clarity that this is a foul rather than being something that we just have to guide or give warning language about as some of the other sections about, you know, can't play with blood on their clothing and things like that. We don't award fouls for that, but we can for this.

So, um, no suitable opportunity. Um, they must remove all, primary objective is safety. Do, do, do. We know all this. Um,

okay. Um, free hit shall be awarded if it happens. Yep. This is all the same. Sorry, I'm, I'm not reading things out loud because I think that's annoying. Do you want me to read it out loud?

Following a penalty corner. This is where things get different. Okay, so let's, let's study this one. Following a penalty corner, it's considered dangerous and negligent behavior if a defender throws any protective equipment and it strikes an opponent, an umpire strikes any person outside the field of play. Okay, so this is been taken completely out of Rule 11. It's been taken out of 9.16. Can I just go back to 9.16 if you don't mind.

Okay. So what they've done is they've taken, um, they've taken the this and moved it to whatever, 13 point something n Okay. And this has been added to just talk about loose objects. So even though this still talks about throwing, it would be nice if it didn't, or sorry, this still talks about throwing, must not throw.

Um, they've at least attached that, and I think that's probably a good move. I think there's room for more clarity on that.

Okay. But, okay. But this, this whole understanding of the yellow card and the team penalties that have to be awarded have not until this point been in at all addressed in the Rules of Hockey, which has made it really tricky.

When the, the first time that we saw this get, um, talked about at the international level was when Cata Wenzel, um, from Chile got hit in the face by a German defender down in Argentina and just absolutely cut open, had to leave the game, and Bruce Bale came into the match. Was it Bruce? Yeah. And they didn't award any sanctions for that.

And then they were informed, um. Word came from the FIH to the tournament officials, to the umpiring team that that was supposed to be a yellow card, a five minute yell card, and a re-awarded penalty corner. And it, it wasn't, you know, and, and that's a big, that's a big deal. Uh, a big switch. And now it's been part of our understanding that we've been trying to get across to players and coaches because we just wholesale adopted it, weirdly, at all domestic levels.

When you think about it, you know, did it get put in anybody's regulations? No. We just started doing it and I wasn't sure that it should be part of it, but at least now we know, or at least when the rules are instituted by your national association, they're there.

So, um, it's very clear in such cases when it's negligent. Um, well, it's considered dangerous and negligent if a defender throws a protective equipment and it strikes an opponent and umpire strikes any other person outside the, uh, the field of play it must be a yellow card. Okay. It doesn't say five or 10, but I guess you've got room for potential egregiousness.

Um, but there's now this disclaimer. Sorry, I was reading it before I started talking. If the player, it's dangerous and negligent if the player is struck on or above the knee in a normal stance, okay?

If time a player stop for this reason, the ball's outside the circle, blah, blah, blah. Play is started with a, a free hit. So now we've got information as to what we do when the ball actually isn't in the circle. We're just gonna give a free hit, um, which I think is fair. Still gonna be a yellow card.

And the free hit is awarded to the opposing team where the ball was. If the ball was inside the circle, it's a penalty corner unless the conditions of 12.4 met, in which case a penalty stroke shall be awarded.

Right. Let's talk about that. So what it has to be under what conditions? Well, I mean, we can go into 12.4, but I think, you know, um, a penalty stroke is awarded for an intentional foul against a an attacker who has possession or likely possession of the ball or an unintentional foul that stops a probable goal from being scored.

How would throwing a mask and striking someone, presumably on the pitch a above the knee, invoke any of those situations? Because if it's an intentional foul against a player who's got the ball and you throw the mask and you hit that person, that's not just a yellow card, right?

Not sure. I.

Okay, Jurjen, I'm gonna get back to your question in a second.

13.5 still says from, from, mm. Self-pass explicitly prohibited. Yeah, that's still there. Oh, you were looking at the old document. Okay. I will unstar your comment

because there's a big difference between dangerous and negligent.

And I've got a, a draft video from October that explains all this stuff, the difference between dangerous negligence and malicious intent and pure accident, because those are all three very different things. If you throw an object at someone in the course of play even, that is not hockey. Even if play is, is going, it's, it's, it is akin to hitting somebody with your stick. That is a red card and then you would give a penalty stroke and the red card. Okay. Is that what they're saying? Does anybody have any argument with that? Please let me know.

Okay. Um, just making sure I haven't missed anything else. Okay. Anything there? I'll wait. I'll wait because. That was a big pronouncement. Oops, sorry, my scrolling isn't going very well. I'll try to get back to the section so you can see it on the screen. Wrong. Browser tab. Yeah, it was Bruce. Yeah. So your own team is fair game.

Yep. Go ahead, hit them all you want. Um, no you can't. Um, well, no, not on the pitch, but you can throw a mask and hit somebody who's off the pitch, or it strikes an opponent, an umpire, or it strikes any other person outside the field of play because it's possible for an umpire to be outside the field of play. It's possible for a player to be outside the field of play temporarily because they've run and they've passed off a ball and they've gone tumbling or something like that. So. Um, I think that's something to keep in mind.

In your defense. Yeah. There's probably not a lot of, um, consistency there, Jurjen, um, about black bars, you feel that negligent is superfluous, dangerous is enough and easier to find.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. But I think the benefit that we have with using negligent is that it can capture a nuance. And I know that it's, maybe this is my legal bias coming out, but for me, negligence is a very well-defined concept and it's one that helps us distinguish between, as I was saying, purely accidental and actually malicious intentional behavior. And I don't think a lot of players understand the difference between what is something can be accidental and negligent at the same time because you haven't taken care to prevent the accident. Something that is purely coincidence accidental, two players looking in totally different directions and and and colliding 'cause neither of them knew the other one was there.

That is purely accidental, but you can have somebody who doesn't intend their action and that can still be negligent. And that concept of negligence is what we're penalizing when we talk about reckless as the result of breaking down play.

So. Um, no, I don't, I don't think it's implying any responsibility outside of the sport context. No. I think it just helps inform it if you're an English speaker. Um, I've got, I've got my law degree always in my back pocket. It's just, it's even dustier than my live streaming software though. There you go.

Um, careless throw of the mass that hits an attacker about to shoot in the head, then puts them off their shot penalty stroke. But that's, that's not a probable goal. That is not an unintentional foul that stops a probable goal. The ball has to be headed to the goal and stopped from going in the goal for it to be a probable goal. Okay. People get confused about that concept.

Um, yeah, Phil, you dislike how it explicitly states a yellow card and should say at least a yellow card. Good. Yeah. Yeah, I did make a good point.

And then yeah, you, you've been there, you've been the Rupert. Yeah. Um, it's negligent not to look where you're throwing a mask. It's accidental throat where you can see no one, but they happen to be running fast from. Yeah, that's, that's a good explanation. It's accidental when they run from outside your field of view and you had no,…

potentially it could be accidental. Let's say it could be accidental because you still have to exercise a lot of care. You have to understand you've got this object that can hit other people and it's your responsibility to look. Okay, now that I say it out loud, I disagree with you and myself.

Okay. 13.5. 13.5,

huh. Well, I think we're getting back to this point, um, that Jurjen made about the, from the circle as opposed to outside the circle, which some people, and I got this question quite often, and I just had to say, look, I know what the answer is, even though I can't support it under the rules. That from the circle indicates, that it is a, it alludes to it being in a single direction.

No, it alludes to the distance that it would travel. Would it go in one direction is more than five metres? You can see whether you're using the word from, because any way you try to explain the word from, as opposed to outside the circle, you say a lot of words and nobody's gonna understand them. Okay.

But I like that. Um, yes, well agree, but think of all the money that the equipment manufacturers are gonna lose. They're gonna be so sad. Okay. Rules play. R is, um

hmm. Okay. More clarity. Whoops. More clarity. Sub D about the penalty stroke. I like this rewording. Again, they're not looking to make substantial changes, so this shouldn't change the way that we've been dealing with penalty strokes. And what this is specifying is that the beginning of the stroke is when the whistle is blown to start the penalty stroke.

So that's when a player's feet have to be in the right position. So that gives you an opportunity. And that's in the briefing, which we're not gonna get to tonight because this is, we've already been going for an hour. But, um, we will go through the briefing and the highlights thereof in a future episode.

That means I have to come back. Oh, no. And. There is, there's guidance, new guidance in the new briefing about how this is something to manage beforehand, just like feet of injectors or defenders on penalty corners, you should be doing that before you blow your whistle to begin the penalty corner. You should be doing this from the penalty stroke and yes, the outside, if you've got dotted lines, very easy.

You're absolutely right. Okay. Um, so they've added the word penalty stroke, so stop calling it a stroke. Stop calling it a flick. It's not penalty. Stroke penalty Stroke, penalty stroke. Yeah. They've just, they've added that word a lot. And that's good because that accords that term with the understanding of what a penalty stroke is.

Okay.

Ah, so just a little technicality. Instead of it being a goal or a goal scored is that it's not that a goal is scored, it's just the ball has entered the goal. So I like that because a goal indicates that it's legal and it's should be awarded. So they've removed that. That's good. And there we go. Break halftime interval.

And I bet you any money, I'm just gonna, yep, yep.

Oh, they have made a change in the guidance to umpiring skills. None of the ones that should be made, but they have added communication after cooperation as a main skill. Congratulations. Everything else under this section is if, if it still applies to modern hockey, that's sheer coincidence. Um, made it digital for access to the current rule book.

Congratulations. 2026, including good eye contact through the match. Yeah, that's just a rewording. Okay. That's grammar. Nobody cares. Yeah.

So unfortunately that, that is the section I'd like to spend all the time in because that's where I make my bread and butter. That's where I make umpires good, is in helping with the umpiring objectives and umpiring skills and signals and all that sort of thing.

This needs to be changed. Or just bloody well remove it because it's not helpful.

Um, oh yeah. I mean, there you go. Is that, is the communication addition irony?

Is that Alanis Morissette irony or real irony? I don't know which. Okay. Well friends, that is, what is the, the changes to the Rules of Hockey, um, what do you think? And again, that, that is just what has, um, been basically just a quick addressing of things. I guess they just didn't want one more year to pass and they decided that they could do this before the World Cup because not very much is substantially changed except for the aerial rule, which they think by regulation, most of the international competitions, all the ones that I know about, but that doesn't mean that, uh, it's, it's, it's possible that I've, I've missed some, um, that they've been playing the aerial trial. They introduce it every time, so that's good to know.

Um, I'll just, I'll just speak a very quick word about the radios because it's worth it. Wait three?

Hmm.

Yeah. I have, I have missed I thing here, but I think I can, I think I can save it. Hold the phone. Hold the phone. Okay. What I wanted to point out to all of you, because there's a lot of people who might watch this on replay, not necessarily people who are here live, that I have been going through an existential crisis with the radios because this manufacturer of these radios, EJEAS, decided to discontinue the 3.5 mm port jack on their radios.

Um, and much like the FIH, didn't communicate it to me. Not that they owed me it specifically, but I was quite taken by surprise when I was no longer able to order, when I tried to place an order for 3.5 mm. And I understand that it's a good idea to get to modern technology. U-S-B-C-U-S-B-C technology is not exactly new. So it's good because it can potentially carry data and all that sort of thing.

But here was the problem that I was running into. Is that EJEAS equipped their radios with a very specific USB-C port that is not compatible with third party accessories. So that meant that if, for example, you were one of the, approximately 70, 70% of my customers who want to use air tube mics with USB-C radios, you couldn't because IgEs doesn't make USB-C air tubes. They don't make air tubes, period. They think everybody should be using boom mics, which is hilarious because no. If you use a boom mic again, it's all about choice. You can wear a scor, you can wear shorts, you can wear an air tube, you can wear a boom mic. I just know what I like and I know what works for me. Definitely an air tube.

So what that put me in a position of was trying to scramble for alternatives and for some time I was looking at a bunch of different radios. As it turns out, there is a gentleman in the Netherlands who has created a, has managed to reverse engineer

and a GS specific USB-C 3.5 mm adapter, which has the configuration, the specific pin configuration that a GS needs in order for it to work. And for some reason they're selling them the parts to do it. So. It's all working out. So I have an alternative. So I am going to be, and I have all of the radios on, um, pre-order sale right now because they are being ordered as we speak.

So we're gonna be okay and hopefully some PO at some point. Um, I'm gonna talk to this, um, uh, to Erwin, my new best friend. I swear to God, I'm sending him the most expensive bottle of whatever it is that he drinks that I possibly can. I'm gonna talk him into making manufacturing his own, um, USB-C air tubes so that no adapters are needed.

But, um, that is, um, that is the state of the union. That's where we're at. So if you've been waiting to order Refcoms, if you've been waiting to order, um. The, the V6s, if you have been, if you've ordered V6s off Amazon.

Sir. Ma'am.

And you couldn't use 'em with your air tubes, you can come by an adapter now. There you go. Oh my God. Goodness. Yeah. So as you know, Mr. Milford is our Chief Fulfillment Officer, and we're gonna have a lot of work to do to make sure that people are buying what they actually want and what they actually need for the components they have.

Who knows, who knows it's, it's gonna be chaos, but hopefully, um, Nick, no, there you go. Um, yes. They make, they, they make USB-C. Oh USB-C booms to 3.5 mms. No. Disconnect your buzzer. I'm not doing it. That's not funny. I don't like that. I don't like that comment. I'm removing it from the broadcast.

And so, yes, and by the way, the whole sale thing is because if you're willing to pre-order from me, I'm gonna give you a little bit of a break because I need the cash. 'cause I just put in a mammoth order.

It hurts. It hurts so much. I'm so nervous. So yes, please, um, pre-order now help my cashflow situation. And that has been taken care of. So there you go.

Um, we'll go through the briefing next time. We'll go through clips. If you have seen things, if you're watching the World Cup Qualifiers right now, there are three tournaments going on right now that you could be getting your eyeballs on too, uh, on watch.hockey.

Please go to watch.hockey and buy your, your year pass. And I know it's money and I know it's a lot, but watching as much hockey as you can is gonna help you so much with your own parring. Very, very important. Um,

the, um, yeah, there, there could be things that you're noticing come into the Discord server, uh, fhm powers.com/ds. Do I have a sting for that? Do I have a sting? Do I have a discord? Mm mm No, I don't. Promo. Nope. I was checking. Um, come on in and point it out and it might make it to a live stream next time.

And then you said Yes. Well, we're always excited about clips because we have, um, we have our own Simon Plant who is the ma designer, maker, manufacturer, creative genius behind Flintstone Cottage 3D and Flintstone 3D, and is the person responsible for the amazing clips that are now going out with all of our radios.

And I have heard nothing but great reports about them, so I'm very glad. Um, it would, who, who would you have to be nice to, to get an air tube earpiece with a boom mic.

You mean to exchange the, the actual piece that goes in your ear canal? Uh, send me, send me a message. You did good work tonight as a moderator. There you go. And, sorry. Um, do I ship the 3.5 mms to Germany? Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Gimme a shout and let's make sure that they work with the radios that you have.

I mean, I mean, they're, it, it's a, it's a low commitment shipping thing. It's not like I have to send a big box. I can send it an envelope, but, um, yeah, we can, we can work that out.

Okay. It's been more than a Keely hour. Some things never change, but this was not what up Wednesday? This was the breakdown live, and I'm so glad that many of you chipped in and gave me things to think about. Held my feet to the fire and actually hung out with me through what is got to be one of the nerdiest, perhaps most boring, except for us folks kind of live stream in the world. Um, that was really, that was really great. And I think I might do it again. There you go. Um, I'm gonna try to end the stream properly.

I have a feeling that I'm not gonna do it very well, but let's see what happens. And, oh no, see, this is gonna, this is less than a Keely hour. Um, oh yeah, it has been less than a Keely hour. Okay. See, I can do good stuff. I can do good stuff, but I can't find my end screen because for some reason, ah, I know what happened.

Okay. Let's see what happens if I press this. Bye everybody.

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