Live Q&A #WhatUpWednesday Ep. 94

📅 Oct. 19 18.00GMT
➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2v0a5H_g0s

How do we handle situations where two players are involved in a collision? We have two examples to work on it! Plus: checking on the latest updates to the outdoor Rules of Hockey, what's up with facemasks in indoor hockey, and we act as the video umpire for the Let's Stick Together podcast gang and definitely have some advice for them.

⏱ Chapter Markers:
0:00 Chair Dancing
2:27 Topics!
13:05 1. GERvNED Collision
37:07 2. Canada West Collision
01:03:35 3. Updated Outdoor Rules of Hockey
01:10:02 4. Indoor Facemasks
01:18:19 5. Let's Stick Together Referrals

Check out when the next #WhatUpWednesday will go live.

🟢🟡🔴 🏑

Transcript

Keely: What? Hi, Keely Dunn What Up Wednesday? FH umpires. And you are the third team, and yes, I have to change the order of those scenes. It's good to see you all. Let's see, let's count how many little, little things happen throughout the stream. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get a hundred percent or one of these days. But it's just like umpiring.

You're, you're chasing the perfect stream and it just, there's just that one little thing that doesn't happen. I am glad to be here and we've got an interesting show for you today. A lot of viewer requests and something that nobody requested whatsoever. This is what we got coming up. We have a Germany and Netherlands collision.

We've got a Canada West collision, cuz we have two of them. We're gonna check in on the rules of hockey and see if there are any updates. We're gonna talk about indoor face masks because Chris Palmer is making me too, uh, making me too , making me do this. And we are going to talk about a few things that the Let's Stick Together Podcast could be referring to me and I'm gonna tell them about this.

And say, you know what? All you have to do is there we go, do not disturb. All you have to do is ask for a video referral and I'll be right there. I'll be right there and I'll see if there's any advice possible. Good to see everybody in the chat, uh, between Kev and William and Matt is here. As always, Mark White House.

I'm really glad you're back, Shayne. Of course, Kia Aura and Rachel, were in the, in the tailgate. Very, very North American thing, a tailgate. So you hang out and literally you take your pickup truck and you pull down the tailgate and you sit on it and you drink with your friends, and you do a wiener roast and you do all kinds of stuff.

So, Look, I'm just trying to mix cultures here. We can't just be all doing the British thing. Uh, Amanda's here. Nice to have you. Oh my God. Catrina what? Hang on. I need to get back to my correct thing. He, Hey, good to see you. And Gatchu is also hanging out in the tailgate, as was Luke. Very good. Yes, yes, yes.

Simon Milford is in the building.

Yep. , I'm glad you're here. You've been very, very busy lately. Um, hi Matt College. Matt, have we introduced ourselves? If not, here's a welcome dj. Hi. There you are. Mr. Bray's here as well. Jeanette? Yes and yes. Saying hello to the chairman and Adams here. Um, oh wait, I didn't read evening at all, Mr. McCartney.

Right. Okay, so we need to clarify something. Sir, as much as I appreciate you popping into the stream and giving me the watch hours, this kind of nonsense where you talk about being on a beach in a biza is uncalled for and that's a fine. Thank you very much. There you are being told to change. Hi. I'm glad you're back.

And there you go. It's been a long time, Kat, so there you are. But uh, yeah, you're here staying. Good to have you Nick. and there you go. Can't be doing all the British things. Not just drinking my tea Luke, but drinking my English breakfast blend.

Bri Okay. announcements. Him my, um, my covid cough has been rearing its ugly head a few times. I played two games of indoor on Sunday and man, did I have a good time with the old, the old chesteroony after that. But if you wanna get into an indoor season, I prescribe… don't just don't just go out there and play a few shifts.

No, no, no. You should go out there and play two games. In fact, play division one first, because that's exactly what a 50 year old should do. And then play division two and basically have so few players that you have to play the entire game. That is exactly the right tactic, wise advice. Okay. And, and Chris has got his burger.

I'm very pleased for him. And there you go. Head to the fines collected on Monday. Exactly. Yeah. You know, oh, oh, we need to have fines nights. Oh my God, you guys, this is the best idea you've ever had. Oh, hi Pritpal. Very nice to see you, sir. Oh my gosh. After all these years. I'm glad you're here. Okay.

Announcements. Announcements and announcements. Don't forget, today's stream is brought to you by my mission control position, mission C. Hi. This stream is brought to you by the Mission Critical Positioning Workshop. fhumpires.com/mcp. Pre-registration is now available because there's nothing like the stress of taking people's money to make sure you finish what you started.

Yes, indeed. This is not about you friends. This is about me and how I have to get this workshop done. So you can buy now for $5 off the regular price, which you can see on the screen. It's in freedom dollars. I don't know what that means to you. You could be anywhere that price could say something else, and, uh, but it'll be released on November 15th if you're a yellow member.

Uh, my friend Lochy Hall brought this to my attention that for some reason this sale bumps the yellow discount. So if you're yellow, just don't buy it yet. Okay. Like, just don't, because you get 50% off if you're a yellow member. And if you don't know what I'm talking about in terms of yellow memberships, well,

Oh, that's an interesting little setup I've got going there. Okay. That's two green, yellow and red memberships. Red for associations, yellow for people who really wanna level up their umpiring. $27, 27 freedom dollars a month. And green. You get access to the clip library and special areas of the server, and we just get to be friends.

But also, don't forget, we do have a discord server. Oh, you there? There it is. Fhm pros.com/discord. Some people don't know this, but it's free to join so you can subscribe to a membership that gets you special things in there, but you don't have. and there's lots of amazing stuff. Our off top channel is bumping, so you better get in there.

There you go. Finds night and a Monday huddle. That's an idea. We'll think about that. We'll think about that. I wonder if I should do this with the elements. I didn't think this one through about how my sting is going. Exactly where the comments go.

Maybe that's like three. Yeah, I think that's three. That counts as three heart mood's here. That is awesome. You'll be joining. That means I get to know your real name. That's so exciting. Or no, you're gonna, you're gonna join as been told to change, aren't you? I know what's happening. There you go. And there's the disco server.

Exactly. You don't have to, but you should. Michael Jeanette is very, very wise. I think you should listen to the girl and you're here for fines. Yeah. Oh, this is gonna be so good. Uh, I also wanted to send out a congratulatory note to fhu3t yellow member Mr. Nick Kryvinsky for having a very successful masters tournament in South Africa.

I am very proud of you and, um, going out there and repping FHumpires and showing all the things that you're learning is very exciting to me. He got appointed to some excellent matches, particularly in the over 45s age group, and he is pictured here with none other than fhu3t member Simon Mason.

So this is like an an all, wait, I gotta point this way. This is an all fhu3t picture right here. Just want you to know. . There you go. So big congratulations. Well done to you. If you've done something amazing, let's face it, everything we do is amazing. But if you've done something that you particularly would like to share, because celebrating each other's accomplishments is such a great thing to do, I think we as umpires are told, well, you know, you have a great game when nobody knows you're there and stuff like that.

A, that's bullshit. B, I know you're there and I want to know that you are here and I wanna celebrate with you when something great happens. So please do let me know so that I can throw confetti at you on YouTube. It's there. You gole is 110% a great idea. Yes. I can't believe it took me this long to figure it out.

You guys. There you go. Oh, Ribhu, you're here. I'm glad to see you again. Fantastic. Okay, let's get the party started. First collision and our first topic. This came from a Germany, Netherlands game.

Good job Matt.

I paused it on this moment just so everybody could see what that said. And what it said was it was a five minute suspension. So this should be prompting me to spring into action, and I am going to put up a poll as soon as I can grab it. Create, poll, and a. Okay, so what did I say?

Free hit, oops. Free hit, uh, to orange. And free hit to free it plus, um, no, that's not how I darn it. I'm, I'm all a fluster because I'm trying to remember all my tech shortcuts and it's not working. That's four. That's four in case you're counting at home.

One more option. Oops. Yeah, I forgot. Can I edit that poll? I could end it. I could end it before you even answer. Okay. That's what I'm gonna do. Oh, people, you already voted. That's very good. Okay. But let me, let me do it again and I'm gonna loop this so you can see it a few more times.

Okay. So this was an email that I received

from, uh, a

from a community member. Yeah, I guess so. And see this is when I'm trying to type and talk at the same time,

plus yo card five minutes. Okay. I'm just gonna focus. You guys are talking amongst yourselves anyway, which is exactly what I want you to do.

Okay, let's try this again. All of the options are now available. Why is this not playing? There we go. Now it's gonna loop. Okay, so those are your options. Free hit, free hit, and a green free hit, and a five minute yellow free hit, and a 10 minute yellow. So now you've had the opportunity to see a few times.

Please get your votes in. The question that was posed to me was, it was an interesting one. Because normally I have quite a knee-jerk reaction. I don't know if you've noticed, but I have opinions and they often include things such as, let me tell you what red cards are in our sport, as opposed to what they are in rugby, what they are in football, sports ball, all the other sports.

Because people tend to bring those cultures in here because those are the cultures that they're best acquainted with. And it doesn't fit in a scheme where we have a graduated set of personal penalties available to us, many of which I've just laid out to you in a poll that you can, uh, that you can vote on.

So what this means is if you are playing, say, sports ball, and there is only a yellow which has a slap on the wrist. And relatively meaningless unless accumulated and then ejection from the game. And those are the only two options that changes the, the, the, the way in which a referee could manage misconduct in that game fundamentally changes.

We have all these graduated penalties and temporary suspensions and different durations of temporary suspensions in addition to the permanent suspension of a red card, which means that we can do things differently. Okay? But what was raised to me was whether this could be a red card because of the nature of it.

Um,

Of, of the head nature of this injury. So I guess in rugby, I've been informed that there's quite a bit of a crackdown going on about head injuries and hits that are at a certain level. And I take that point, however, we are playing a sport that has different physical in which players are participating in different body shapes and we're bent over and looking down at the ground, unless we're really good players, almost by default.

And in order to reach for a ball and reach for a tackle, your, your vision is going to be impaired. You are going to be looking down, trying to seek out that ball rather than looking more up into that danger area of the head. So I don't think that you can transfer that across. I think it is a point to look at the head injuries, and I'd be interested in the comments of top players on this one.

If only I knew some top players who had recently appeared on the show that maybe would have an opinion about this. But are head injuries becoming more prevalent or are we smarter about identifying those head injuries? And do we have more stringent protocols in place to protect players as they are recovering from those injuries?

Do we no longer risk them to the same extent that we used to? Because of what we know medically. So I don't think it applies, but I take the point that it's something to monitor and watch and to continue having conversations about. So I am going to go into your comments now to see what you think about all this.

Okay. The, the, the mi Migliano family. Great to have you person of the Mirglianos. You want a 10 minute yellow card for that? Um, let's see what's happening. Um, so Jennie's asking, does the player go for a concussion test? There is concussion protocols in place at FH competitions where there's a tournament doctor who will do that sort of test.

So anyway, I have to go well back. It wasn't very friendly. Ouch. Ribhu. It's terrible tackle. You can argue intentionality. Um, yeah, but definitely dangerous. So the recklessness is enough. And rebut that's a really good point. And what I want everybody to keep in mind is that he doesn't have to intend the injury or intend the result, but he's, if he behaves recklessly as to what would create that result, that's enough.

That's enough to be fully penalized. I don't think we have any problem with that in this particular one, but it's, it's a good distinction to, uh, accentuate Mark. That's a straight yellow card for you. Absolutely. Hashtag ouch from cat. Um, Michael. Yeah, that would be a straight red in rugby. And that's the point that was, uh, emailed to me.

I, I don't wanna use this person's name because I didn't clear the permission with them first. Only five was the award. You're absolutely right. And for Mark, he turned his shoulder into the tackle. You would've gone for a 10 minute yellow card. And I think that's, that, that is interesting. Just keep in mind that a tackling skill is at times to, to go in and, and to try to take the ball and curl off at the same time.

So it's not a completely baseless non hockey thing. Okay. That there is some element of, it could have been a tackle if he had made, you know, some kind of actual attempt at the ball, but he didn't . And that is exactly what Mark says in the next comment. Alistair, oh, congratulations. Wait, wait. Um,

that's great news. Alistair. I'm so pleased for you. Congratulations on your pass. Uh, there you go. At 10 for Luke, did you forget he had a stick? No, he didn't forget he had a stick because as he went in for the tackle, he actually lifted the Dutch players stick outta the way. So he definitely remembered he had a stick there.

He just didn't use it to try to get the ball first. Gayatri, 10 minute yellow card for you too. And Ribhu agrees as well. And there's the concussion test. Hartman wants a 10 minute. Rachel wants a 10 minute. Shayne wants a 10. You were thinking about a red card. Okay. I still think we have to be very, very careful about this because we don't just treat red cards in our sport the way that, um, they're treated perhaps in other sports and somebody.

Okay, you're allowed to talk about sport ball for one quick moment. Tell me whether, for example, in the epl, whether there's a mandatory match band associated with reds. If I remember, welcome to Reham properly, Mullin

When Mullin took his red card, he was out for two games and they were crucial games in the season. Uh, reckless. It's five minute or 10 minute for Simon. 10 minute for Kevin. Um, the danger of the shoulder in the head and the impact. 10 for Luke bra. Wait. Oh yeah. Happy belated birthday to Shayne

and not to scroll out on this too much, but we now have a cellys and B-day. Okay, changing the channel name right now sells and b-days channel where you can go in and we can do little salaries of anything. If you sell your house, you get a new job, you like any good stuff, put that in there so we can throw really celebratory gifts at you.

Okay, there you go. Yeah, it's, and players know that if they show a little remorse, that can often change how an umpire reacts with their carding. Even though we might think that we're not affected, we are affected. So, um, opinions, yes, girl, let's talk. He does lead with a shoulder, but again, as I said, you know, it's when we turn to curl that also incorporates a shoulder.

I just, I'm not excusing it. I just want us to, to, to understand that there wasn't just a. Necessarily there is the possibility that he was going in for a, a turn and protect sort of thing, but he was way, oh, cellys and wins is what it is. Rachel, thank you. There you go. Um, q any con context in this game? Uh, I'm not sure.

Um, I didn't go back into the game sheet. I could have, but I don't think it was necessary because if there had been anything else in this, first of all, if that player received a green, then I would expect even more so that that goes to a 10 minute yellow card right away if that player had received a yellow for any reason.

And then does that, that best be second yellow to red? Okay. And this is where the complication comes in when people say, oh, well, if it's for a different reason, then we shouldn't necessarily go to the red card. This trumps any other possibility because of the dangerous physical nature. And again, the point of giving that second yellow to red.

Is that this player is not going to be allowed to come back on the pitch because they shouldn't come back on the pitch. They've shown that they have an absolute disregard by doing something that is broken down the game twice already. And one of those was very physically dangerous. So I don't, I don't like it when people start trying to split hairs about why the yellows were given and ice hockey as well.

Yep. There you go. Yeah, I'm, I think this is one of those times where it actually quite stands alone, Nick, if something had happened early in the match that made you think it was intended retribution. Okay, that's fair enough. And I don't believe that was the case. I don't remember this. I mean this, this is hockey worldly, so this is a few years ago now, so maybe I missed this particular game.

I think I would've heard something.

Well, yeah, it was intentional, but that's what we penalized with green cards and yellow cards as well. So that's, that's not the turning point. They've been told to change. That isn't our TSN turning point. Um, yeah, I appreciate that. And this is, this is where we as umpires need to do our jobs is to ensure that we are showing the appropriate penalties so that players can trust us to look after.

Okay. Uh, umpires blow up as danger. Okay. Let me see. I feel there's less umpires who blow this up as danger is created and this has helped. Okay. I think I, I think I understand the words in the sequence in which they were posted. Yes,

you like that future umpire, Adam, and hi to Adam's younger, better self. Please let me know if, if you feel comfortable, if there's a name that I can call, even if it's a nickname, let me know. I, I realize there's like privacy concerns and stuff, but I, I like to say hi. Uh, Steffan often has Bentley, you know, watching, so that would be nice.

Okay. Uh, whiplash, uh, is, yeah, the nature of the head injury isn't really the important one. Um, Kev, oh, the German player's looking right at the Dutch one.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, he didn't play the ball at all. I'm just trying to make sure that people don't go, oh, he just barged into him with his shoulder period. There's a bit of hockey going on here, just not very good for Kat. It strikes you.

Drop and he absolutely didn't get the ball. Yep. It would've been, it could have been difficult to spot the head contact since Chris from reverse angle and speed. Yeah, exactly. The replay really does assist, but I think it, you know, yeah, it was a bit of, a bit of an escape, so it looks worse in real time.

I'm just saying something. Yeah. Yeah. And that's totally fine. Mark, uh, that the shape of the tackle is there. Just what I'm trying to make sure that we're not going too far on the, this is not a hockey play because that is when we get to red card. If the ball is involved and it's something that looks remotely like what hockey would be, if it was done correctly, then we don't look for red cards in those situations.

So it's a very poor attempt and I think. It's there. Well, no, but we also don't, I still think that that's when we stick to the right threshold there been told to change. I understand where you're pushing. I know where you're going. I'm just saying that we're right under that line still, but we're under the line.

It's worth thinking regardless of the things, what the minimum penalty would be that you would impose. Okay. In minimum terms. Well, we'll find out when the poll closes very soon. Edward. Hi. Hi. You're with friends now. Yay. Yeah. And Luke can see the hokiness in what's happening, even if it's really sloppy.

The minimum for Michael is 10. Yes. And that's what I'm asking for. Um, depending on what they get. Yeah. What they give sets. Theona game. Absolutely. Absolutely. Been told to change. This is exactly why I'm so. Insistent that we learn from watching these things because I can guarantee, I can guarantee that in any match I see where things get a little out of hand or go to worse extents where we do see red cards, it's because something like this doesn't get treated properly.

And yes, I think you may have gotten away with a little bit here with not getting that extra five minutes on top of the initial five, but I think probably enough of a message was sent here. Bentley says, ouch. 10 minutes off his right. Well done. 

Mark's with me on the non-red card. Okay, so we can say body foul, stick. Foul. Okay, sorry. , read the comment. Keely, we can we say body foul stick. Foul, no control. Body plus danger to other player confirms tenement. Sure, we can just say danger. Dangerous, physical recklessness, whatever, plus intent to break down the play.

One's five, the other could be five, could be 10 on its own two, but definitely adds up to 10. That's exactly what we can do. Yep. Absolutely. Okay. Um,

there we go. That should take care of that. Thank you. All the mods. Appreciate it. Okay. Are we ready for this? Hang on.

That seemed a little bit loud. Okay. Lemme go get the pole. This. Okay. Sorry. I'm clicking the buttons and it's just not.

We're up to five. Who's counting? I'm counting

and I am about to come back with the results. I'm really glad that our Tinder friend is back though, because I'm not sure if I would feel the same if they weren't here. Okay, here are the results. Um, 86%. Really nice, healthy percentage. Wanted the 10 minute yellow, five minute for, uh, 13% of you, and that was it.

So really well done. I completely agree. In the moment, it's very easy to just start with a default, like, oh, that's physical. I'll go with five. There's been a real push and I think it's a valid one. To make sure that players understand that dangerous physical play is not going to be tolerated. And we need to protect players of this game at all levels because we want people to come back.

We want Bentley and Edward to grow up and be amazing players and wanna contribute to the community for the next 80 years of their lives. So we need to protect players at all ages, at all levels, and send the strong messages about what we consider to be safe play and safe hockey. So that is that. That was really nice actually.

Didn't take us too long, so thank you for all your participation in that one. That is helpful. It's not gonna be so easy on the next one.

I almost timed it right. It was almost perfect, wasn't it? Did you know we have a discord? Oh, that doesn't work. I gotta wait till the other one's done. Six. I'm gonna, boy, I sure hope I don't need to start bringing out my toes. I did have a pedicure, but not recently enough. There you go. Oh, that is shocking in Nora, your timing is impeccable.

I wasn't.

You're here for most of the show, Nora. That's the important thing. And 44 votes and only nine likes.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. I really appreciate the, everybody's rallying the troops though. I like this. I like this a lot. I'm actually, I'm really pleased that so many people are participating in the poll. This means a lot to me, so thank you very much for doing that. Likes are fine, but engagement means everything to me because I need to know what y'all are thinking.

So there you go. That's true too. That's okay. Just make sure you stay and you catch up and Mr. Bruce is here. Hello. Okay, let's go. Topic two. So this came to me out of thin air. Canada West is the, um, regional university competition in my area, and that is my former team, uh, that I was coaching last year on the pitch.

So, uh, I think that was, uh, Jayden that went down there. And, uh, so we are going to look for this.

Shayne Macnee.

Okay, so let me set up the poll while y'all are watching this. And I just wanted to sort of, I want you to watch how the umpire handles this, uh, this injury as well. There should, there should be a cutaway here. Okay. But the two umpires do come together to have a discussion, uh, to make sure they're on the same page.

But the umpire did a really nice job in going to both the players didn't spend too much time with one of the, like, okay, I'm checking on you. I'm checking on you. Is everybody all right? And here are. Oops.

Hmm. That works. Okay, so I'm just setting this up for you now.

And one more option, and we are going to be in business

Another ouch. Hey. Like these are, yeah. And I don't wanna focus on these things, but collisions are very difficult. I, I don't know, I'm not telling you how to feel, but I know, I feel absolutely. Um, I feel terrible. Uh, and sometimes get a little teary when I see players getting injured when I am on Parring because I feel like they are directly my responsibility.

And so I, you know, I think we all cringe at these situations. I thought I edited more of that out, but anyway, there you go. Okay, so here's the replay. Let me just start with getting some more of your comments. And we have some ouch and more. Ouch. Okay. For Jenny, this is a bully. Ooh. I didn't put that option down, did I?

You can see the collision again a few times. So this should, okay. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put up just the collision. Okay. And this should loop for y'all.

Okay. Cuz I think the point was made about how well the situation was handled. Checking on each player, going to your colleague and resetting yourself. Maybe particular if it was a, um, a particular significant injury. It's a good time just to go and say Okay. Are we good? Are we good? Yeah, we're good. Um, What are we gonna, what are we restarting with?

What did you see from your angle? Okay, working that all out. Communicating that to the captains on the way back is a really great way to handle that situation. It gives you a chance to touch base and say, Hey, I hope, I hope your player's okay. We're restarting with X, we're restarting with why. Talk to the other captain as well.

Hey, or maybe it's the goalkeeper, maybe it's somebody else. If the captain isn't around, okay? So use that opportunity, okay? Okay. Yes. Thank you, Chris. If you think it's a bully, then you can vote for the play on. But stopping because of the suspected head injury is the right approach. So if the player or players who are injured are not in immediate danger or not in in potential danger, you could keep the ball rolling except when.

It's a suspected head injury or there's blood in those two situations, you just have to stop play and make sure that that's there. Okay? You put, people are smarter than me and they put play on for the bully. Thank you both Mark and Stijn. S t i JN for my transcription software Stijn and in Slowmo, which nobody had the benefit of, right?

Uh, the video umpire would see who touched the ball first. Yeah. Maybe.

You are loathed, you're loathed. No, you're not loathed, you're loathe to suggest restarting with a bowl. Look, Mike, you are on track for receiving quite a few fines always. So didn't we just handle that person? But I'm just really glad that there's all these options for tinder dating. Thank you. Yes. The white team is a attacking that's important to point out.

Uh, Candice, you wouldn't know what to restart with. So keen to hear everybody's reasoning. There's no intention to to break down play or intentional danger. Okay, that's, uh, that's good to hear from you. Candace. Play on with a bully for heart mo. Oh, whoops. I'm right. Tinder dating is the best. Luke, as the defenders legitimately attempted to play the ball, the attacker was the one running into the contact for you.

Luke,

uh, um, Chris, you think it's completely unintentional. They're still intruction. The white has tipped it past in the direction she's running an apologetic PC for Chris. I have a feeling this is gonna be a bit of a split for Kev. It looks like the ball hit the defender's leg. No, there wasn't, there wasn't any foot contact.

Um, um, maybe the rest of the folks can confirm that for me, but I don't see, I don't see a foot. And Janette agrees with the penalty corner coming here, and both players wanted to play the ball. It's an accidental collision. For Luke, you're considering whether the defender was obstructed and you're in two minds as to whether two minds over it.

Well, if you think the defender was obstructed because the attacker ran into them, the fact that she is now on the ground. If you believe that the obstruction was caused by the atta, or you believe that whatever happened was caused by the attacker, then I mean that is definitely getting obstructed. It's just whether it's, it's it's who caused it, basically.

Okay. What does Edward think? It could be obstruction by the defender. So penalty stroke for him, for you. Play on. Okay. So, so Edward, just remember that when we want to go with a penalty stroke, it's because we consider the foul to have been intentional or reckless as to whether it really likely would've happened.

So trying to do something that you know is probably gonna miss, like you try to tackle and you throw your stick, but you know you're probably gonna miss it, that is still intentional cuz the action is within your control. Now was the action of the defender here within her complete control, given that the contact was just before

What is happening here? I'm watching this and I don't know why it's

playing this. Interesting. I'm just gonna reset the scene.

It does need another replay. If you want to come up with, you know, the most accurate decision and yeah, you're right Michael. We don't have that opportunity. So you voted a free hit defense, but you now think it's a bully.

Yeah. Nas nasty accident for Nick White. And you'd go with a bully without slowmo. With the Slowmo. Maybe PC is attacker wins the ball first. Okay. And that's interesting. So I want, I wanna go through that a little bit more. Why is this just,

I don't know why this video is not behaving.

It's very interesting what's happening.

Let me see if I can fix it.

I am struggling with this one and, okay, good, Edward, I'm glad. I'm glad we've had a meeting in the mines there, Jenny. Try to call it as you see it yet. We don't have a choice. Um, Luke, if there's any obstruction defenders now on the floor, free hit defense. If there's no obstruction, the play goes on. Bully his head injury.

Attackers on the floor penalty corner. Don't you be a Dumbledore's army on this one. Broth weight would argue as a offender, the attackers come from the blind side. They're responsible to avoid the, the contact and create the danger. You could also make an argument that the attacker is responsible for controlling their own body as well.

So since they made contact with the ball and touched it by, do they then need to move around the defender in this case instead of tipping the ball and then continuing going straight at the defender? Cuz the defender isn't changing their line. They're, they're, they're, this is really, I really don't know what's happening with this video.

This is a really even Steven's kind of proposition.

When you see the, the, the point at which that I start this video that refuses to loop for me, absolutely refuses to loop. It shall not loop. You can see how even it is and actually the defender's stick goes over the ball. It literally, they both could have touched it at the same time and did not.

Okay. But they're both running on a pathway. Nobody's changing course. It's very 50 50. Kev, you had this happening in a game on Sunday. You gave a bully and the attacking team won and hit it off the base on for a 16 very supporting play. That's, that's nice to know. And red is the defending team. Alistair restart with a bully.

No way for the umpire to tell who got the ball first wipe hit the ball at reach and it ran away from her. She didn't have control, couldn't claim to be trying to play it. So can't be obstructed. So you're saying that you don't believe that, that the white attacker was obstructed in this case in real time, depending on the empire position says Simon Milford going to be really tricky to see that white gets to the ball first.

Yeah. Especially, um, let's just see if I can bring that up again. Does that come back?

Okay. So umpire positioning for me is a little wide, and probably she was exactly in line as the two players are coming together. I bet she's on exactly the same line. Very difficult to see. Had the umpire been more towards a happy place on that and she had started well in advance, but instead of backpedaling outside as we often do because we feel like we're in danger as that ball goes into the opening.

Okay. Let's just try to, and now it's just not responding to any commands. Respond to my commands.

Okay? So as that ball gets tipped,

okay, you wanna take some faster strides and you wanna try to get inside of this rather than fading out, but you don't wanna be in line, you don't wanna get caught on the train tracks, right?

So at that point there, you're bolting, you're going straight ahead, face up, and then you're turning and you're inside at the point that this is happening. So for those of you who have done mission critical position, We talk about when do you run forwards at full speed and when do you turn to backpedal?

Cuz you don't actually wanna be back flooding for 40 meters or longer. You want to be backpedaling at the right time for

this. If Dina is watching Dina, I'm having a really bad time with e cam today. So that ball comes in right there and as that ball's transferring across, there's little chance for contact. Little chance for a foul that you need to call because there's lots of space around the ball. That's your sprint time.

And you get your 10 meters and then you turn and then you're backpedaling for the rest. Okay. So getting into a mission critical position isn't about necessarily flat out speed. It's about the timing of what style of running you're doing and you time it so that you get your biggest sprints in when you don't have to be making decisions and you're backpedaling when you do, and ideally you are right there.

Yeah. And, and you know, we can always say, well, you know, we can, we can always, hindsight is, is uh, 2020. There's a reason why mission critical helps in so many situations. And if you're ahead of that, you can adjust. If the players move off on a different angle, you can take a couple steps that way, and then you can still see the angle.

This way you, you know, it's just a lot more, a lot there. It's pure accidental for pit. Pulse starts with a bully, okay? Uh, get your last votes in. If you haven't voted yet, the attacker is tending to chase after the ball. There's no way she'd run headfirst to the defendant deliberately when there's a chance to score a rule.

Absolutely. Yeah. I, I mean, neither of these players was, was looking at anything except they wanna compete for a 50 50 ball. And, you know, one wants to clear it, the other wants to score both completely reasonable reactions for, for, uh, each of them. Okay. Uh, let's go. Two minute warning. Wow, you guys,

it's coming.

Life is hard. Okay,

here comes the poll results. Ah, it's taken me like 20 seconds just to pull this up and you could pull it up onto your actual e cam screen and tell the, instead of confidence monitor, here it goes. Okay. Um, lots of variety here. We had 23% we're going with a free hit defense, which was ultimately the decision that the umpire in this case and, and the team of umpires came to in that case.

Uh, penalty corner for a quarter view, 26% and play on with a bully, uh, for the other 50% and. I have to say that I listened a lot to, I'm not saying I ignore any of you. I don't, but I really did listen to how you were all perceiving this, uh, as you were watching the replays going. And I, I have, I, I think I've changed my mind through all of them, but that to me is also a very good indicator that in a 50 50 collision case, even when one player touches the ball, a millisecond before the collision occurs, that probably means there's no fault on either player.

And it's just one of those things, it's very seldom to see such a case like this where the players are literally going head on like this, and one player misses the ball by a fraction. The other player tips the ball by a fraction and. Boom, they're head on. So I agree with the 50% of you who asked for a play on and a bully.

Um, in those cases, that's time I'm being told. Maybe a free hit is very similar as well. But I think that was a really good discussion and I think we fleshed out a lot of the, the concerns there. Pappy would go for a PC for an unintentional obstruction because white gay possession, but did she gain possession of it?

Did she gain possession, attempt to go around the defender who had not changed their line or anything? Did she have possession? She touched the ball and tipped it by, and then ran in the same direction that she was.

Uh, it's different for Chris, uh, to an attacker tipping and running and colliding with a stationary defender with the can't disappear argument. The defender missed it. It's an unintentional obstruction for me, and that's fine. I can see that. It's just the milliseconds there. When you watch it in slow mo, it looks much more like, oh, they've missed it, and now they have to get out of the way because if she had tipped it, you, you know, or if she'd corralled it, you absolutely go the other way, don't you?

So you'll take the fine. Okay. And the ? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think she was milking it at all. Yes. We developer. Okay, great Chat everybody. And for anybody who's interested in those results, I hope that that helps you look at at the play. And you know, with some different eyes. With some fresh eyes and that sort of thing.

Oh, thank you. I hope I see you again. Edward. It was really nice to have you. Oh, Nora, she gives it up. You felt very pretty invalidated and mad at the call and that's okay. You're going to Nora, but you are a very, very good umpire by all accounts and from all the discussions we've had, I know that you're smart and the challenge for you at the point of your career that you're at with National Squad participation and everything is how do I separate out player Nora from umpire Nora?

And in this situation, I don't expect you to be umpire Nora. I wouldn't. Okay. So you can feel in the moment, you can feel even now having watched it, that you've been obstructed and that should be a penalty corner for you. Um, I, I, I hope that what you are hearing are principles that when you're on the pitch in the other capacity and you've got your whistle in your hand, that it gives you another way of looking at these situations and some little points that'll help you when you need to make that decision in a different way.

Okay. That's, that's all of it. Um, there's, there's, there's nothing that I could manage in that situation because both of you had both the right to go for the call. All I would say is, as a human being, do you need to get to that ball so badly that you're gonna risk a concussion? High chance when you're running Palo straight at somebody else who is also running Palo straight at you, that both of you are gonna get pretty seriously hurt.

So I think one of the things that when you get older as a player, you stop putting yourself in a position where you may risk that injury because you're like, it's not worth it. My head, my ability to cognitively think is more important. Back in my twenties when I was article at a law firm, I was also training to be one of the first Canadian boxers to go to the Olympics, and my trainer was very excited.

Unfortunately, when I sparred with someone and she popped me in the nose. Pretty innocently didn't seem to really matter. The next day I was walking into walls, not because that blow was so bad, but because I had taken balls to the head, just sheer accidents as a hockey player on the pitch. And the question my doctor posed to me was, do you wanna be a boxer or do you wanna be a lawyer?

And when head injuries can be avoided, we have to think to ourselves, is there something that we can do to help out that situation? He has no limits, does he? Doesn't he? He's just. I mean you admire it, but you also say what the Sam Hill are you thinking? So yeah, I understand television. Oh, you didn't even see the other player.

Okay. It's interesting to know and that's something that we have to consider as well as, you know, actually. Yeah, cuz the ball would've been coming from your left and you might have been going like this, but it's also, do you, is this an indication for you that there's some more awareness that you can develop in reading where everybody else is coming from?

What would you do differently? Would you cut back towards that ball perhaps instead of just trying to meet in the middle? Or where were you at? Full stretch and you know, I'm not judging here, but is there something different you can do there? To keep yourself in a safer position. And I mean, Nora, that's one of the reasons you scored a shit ton of goals this season is because you have attacker focus.

And that's one of the things that makes you great. It's one of the things that's making Sam Ward great , but he's insane. So keep that in mind. What in the Sam Ward

drop? Jeanette, you have won the livestream today. Thank you. Must get ball. Okay. No, I really appreciate you bringing it forward, and I hope you can see now that I, I mean, Allie would've chimed in by now if she was watching as well, but she has watched other live streams and she would appreciate this conversation just as much as you, I know Allie well enough, , and this is how we can talk as players and umpires and coaches together about something that's happened.

On the pitch and figure out, okay, what are we looking for? How can we do this differently? What does it mean? Not it, it's not about prosecution. We are not passing judgment because we are going to punish someone for doing something wrong. In the past, I'll give a shit. Doesn't matter. Okay. What we're looking at is how can we all get better at our jobs in the future and how can we understand each other better?

Cuz that is going to produce better hockey at the end of the day. So, yep. That's totally fair too. Um, glad to hear that . There you go. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Winner and angry coaches didn't help. Okay, well we can, we can talk about this later. About exactly what was happening on that point, cuz I know exactly who was involved.

So. Okay, let's see where we at that one took a little bit longer. Three. Okay. . Well this isn't gonna be as fun at all. It was brought to my attention a few weeks ago and I just didn't bother really doing anything about it cuz I had other more exciting things to talk about. But there is a small update that has been issued to the rules of hockey and I thought we do the trick of just bringing up Draftable to see exactly what, what has changed in the rules.

Here's a big one, there's a nice pretty cover now and as a result of the pretty cover all of the table of contents numbers. With page numbers are wrong. So those all get corrected for a while. So do, do, do, do, do. We're just gonna ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore. I have not looked at this. I have no idea what we're looking for.

I hope this isn't gonna take very long. Okay. Let's see. Um, other rule changes are essentially cosmetic mandatory has been 2.2 has been incorporated in the rules. Um, we knew that. And why is that different from where it was before? Let me put this in the middle. Okay. So they've, they've brought that clause back in, even though that was already in the 2019 rules.

That's okay. Uh, just confirming that. And the latest rules update. . Um, so they're drawing attention to the fact that 13 point 5G in terms of the, um, bully ending, the penalty corner, that clause being removed. The pit worth rule, as we like to call it in these circles, uh, means that if a penalty corner is called at the end of a.

Or half or full-time that the play must be restarted with a PC instead. It cannot stop as a bully, as said in Rule 60. So I know all of you guys know that, but just to be totally sure, you know, if I was smart. I'd pull my head and I'd put it in the middle here and then I'd pull this over here.

Look at that. Hi. Okay. Um. Clarifications, including the rewording of Rule five D. So, so far they're just drawing attention, better attention to the things that were changed. Um, here are lots of changes. Uh, little typo, uh, conditions. A two F. Interesting. So this is 6.5. All other players must be five years ago.

Um, in the case of the award of a bully at a penalty corner without any of the conditions of five 13.5 A to f

being completed, it accidentally said not being completed. Good to know and like, this is the amazing thing. Is it even for us or, alright, let's be honest, me reading the rules on a regular basis. I read it the way that it was unattended. I didn't even read the words that were right in front of me. There you go.

Um, when the ball travels over the sideline plays, we start with the ball across the line because,

and this is in 7.4,

so they've created a new clause for the sideline. Okay. That's good to know. Okay, so they decided that sideline restart needed their its own clause. Okay, there we go. Here's lots of just, these are all page numbers being changed. Page numbers, page. An awful lot of those, uh, spacing issues. Good to get the typography, uh, and the, the kering set and friends, that's it.

You like that? They've clarified that in writing in 15 G or in 13 5g. And let's just make sure.

Okay. Yeah. These are all numbers. Okay. Let's, let's spin back. Sorry. I hope you don't get dizzy. Match preparation. God, if they could only just spend a little bit of attention in the back of the book where a lot of people who don't get any guidance elsewhere look to, for their tips on how to manage games properly.

Um, instead of listening to, what up Wednesday?

13.7. So you like that they fixed? Where's your comment? Fif 13 point 5g. Okay. That it's been taken away. Yeah. It's just drawing the attention to the fact that it's gone high. Top of the circle. Only one on par can use the word kerning in a sentence and mean it. Hmm. This is an inside joke, which you must come explain to me in the server.

It means you can point to it now if it ever. Yes. Yeah. It's hard to point to something that has been removed. You're like, but that thing that you used to know it isn't here anymore. And people are like, I don't understand you, because we still read things that aren't even there. But when you have a declaration, G is gone.

I like what you mean. Kind of like when you used the word here. Okay. You alright? Well that was good. That didn't take as long at all. That my friends are is the only change that you need to be worried about in regards to the inner rules. Now let's get onto indoor face masks, right? Why not? So Chris, who's been very active in the chat today, it's nice having you back.

You've been away a lot, so it's good to have you. Um, you're looking for, since you're an avid indoor umpire, some consistency on PC equipment, protective rules that have been such a hot topic of discussion in the outdoor game and yet seem not to have been affected in the indoor game. So this is just excerpts out of the server of the things that Chris was talking about.

Uh, and he says in here, you might have expected them to be updated back to back with the outdoor rules, but to the halfway line rather than 23 meter lines. So meaning that it would be explicitly stated that players could continue to wear their face mask up to the center line. Uh, without penalty, which I think is fair.

So these won't change. No. So sorry. Steffan. Squirrel. Um, squirrel. These are just minor little amendments that for whatever reason they got inspired to change. I have a few minor amendments I'd like to add to that entire list, which aren't minor amendments but are major in amendments. But, you know, we couldn't do many more minor amendments, just saying.

So what Chris is talking about specifically in regards to indoor, which as I mentioned before, I started playing on Sunday and I'm still sore and it's Wednesday. Just saying that, sorry, that's the wrong rule. I should start with 4.2. This is what 4.2 in the indoor rules currently read. Which will sound remarkably familiar as to how the outdoor rules used to read, which was just that the defender was explicitly allowed to defend the penalty corner or penalty stroke for the duration of that penalty corner of penalty stroke.

And when they are in the circle, they are defending the primary objective of wearing a face mask to is to defend the penalty corner or stroke is safety and wearing a face mask, which are consistent with the underlying spirit of this gun should be allowed. Now an outdoor we used to do was allow the defender to uh, to dribble.

Once they got to the five meter dotted line, we'd say, get that mask off. Get that mask off, okay. And we'd say that needs to go and the issue of whether a free hit defense had been awarded and whether that player could then continue and take that free hit defense. Or in the case of indoor, the free push, I had always interpreted the rule to say that that was okay.

Um, that in the spirit of the flow and the spirit of safety, that that should be fine cuz we're not trying to penalize and delay the restart of play because somehow that's unfair for, uh, the team now defending that they can't immediately, um, that they get more time basically to reshape their structure.

So there you go. Hi Hockey Moments. Good to have you, um, have they slipped, have they slipped in the offsite rule back in yet? No, no they haven't. It's been, it's been a couple decades offsite existed when I was about, I remember it when I was around 16, 17. And then, It was gone. And even as a defender, I was really glad cuz that was a pile of poop.

So what this means in indoor is that you're looking for the conditions that end a penalty corner, goal free push. Uh, if the ball travels more than three meters outside the circle played over the back line and a penalty corner isn't awarded, travels over a sideboard and a penalty corner is not awarded.

Defender commits an offense which does not result in another penalty corner, which means in between the circle on the dotted line, a penalty stroke is awarded, or a bully's awarded, which cannot be done as the guidance to H, which isn't in line with how it's been treated in the outdoor rules. Another thing that they need to change.

So in indoor, my view, Is that we continue with the previous, um, the previous manner of interpretation, which is to allow those defenders to keep playing so long as if they are in possession and they're continuing outside the three meter dotted line. They must remove the mask as soon as possible if they are not in control of the ball and the ball may have just slipped outside that three meter line and they still have their mask on, they haven't had a chance, especially with how fast indoor moves.

I don't think that's a time to penalize. I'm interested in all your thoughts on that very quick. Um, yeah, it would be nice, wouldn't it? It would be nice to get things more consistent. It seems that indoor is always the afterthought. It's always the, um, I was almost gonna say the whole stepchild notion, but.

We really need to do a better job of looking at the rules as a whole. It's not just one document, it's not just one paragraph. It's not just one section. The whole thing has to fit together and it's hard. It's really hard to do that as somebody who took a few courses and did some things in the legal world.

Well, trying to get an entire legislated document in line with itself takes some significant skill, and that's why lawyers get paid a lot of money, to be totally honest. And why law lawmakers, you know, really do need the help of an experts in legal interpretation, principles and legal drafting. Not easy at all,

so I'm not sure what that comment means, but it's probably good. Oh, wait a minute. Did Simon just wrestle the crown away from Jeanette? New poll?

Who won the comments today? And I'll leave this up for a while.

Okay? No, I was gonna add something, but I don't wanna tilt this. I don't wanna tilt this, please. It's not for me to decide. It usually is for me to decide. But here, look at me trying to be more community-minded. I'm sorry, but this is sharp. This is a burn of magnificent proportions. This is, This is savage. Outdoor man's size shirts, indoor, female sized shirts. Wise, Adam, wise to vote with your assessment dollars. I like how that's how that's there. Okay, I'm gonna leave that open because the last segment that we have today is something that literally no one asked for, but I don't care.

Let's stick together. Referrals. Y'all know I'm a massive fan of these guys. Honestly, it is so seldom I listen to so many podcasts cause I walk an hour a day every day and I listen to podcasts on two time speed. That's why I start to talk really fast sometimes, and I am absolutely laughing out loud when I walk down the path and people are cycling by me and walking by me and they know I'm insane.

They just know it. They know. They don't think they know. I have such a great time listening to this. But there are moments where one of the team of Phil Roper, Brennan Creed or Yo Dul may say something that I don't quite agree with. Perhaps it's a misstatement of fact. Perhaps it's an opinion about something about umpiring.

Well, I've decided that I'm going to encourage everyone from Let's Stick Together and all of you, please have a listen to the podcast. This is the Instagram handle here. Let's stick together with lots of underscores and ours. And I wanted to issue a couple of video umpire decisions, some referrals. This is from the eh l and Yelp tries to be nice for once episode, which is from two weeks ago now.

And let's see if I've, if I can get this right. Where Brendan and the, and the other two were talking about the FIH Hockey Stars Awards, which let's face it, we all know is just absolute pants. It's just, it's hilariously not okay. And maybe every fan voting MVP type award in every sport has started like this and gone through several years of struggling to be relevant, important, and fair.

Right now, we're really not sure what's happening with it, but one of the things that the FI did was change how the votes were and all the different voting bodies had weight. And there is now a bo, a body called the FIH expert. Who have a significant weight of the vote. They are those who bring together all of the nominations in the first place, and then they have a vote in the round that gets presented to after the players have been nominated to vote, along with fan vote of 20% media vote of 40, 20%.

I don't care about that. What happened was Brendan said, no one knows who these experts are. Sir, allow me.

We do know who the experts are because it's on the Hockey Stars website. Okay, here it is. How does it. They ask here are the nominations. The final shortlist was established solely by an expert group composed of players, former coaches, coaches and officials selected by their continental federations. And here are the names, chair of the group and chair of the athlete.

Uh, FIH, athletes Committee. Um, Rogier. I can't Joep corrected everybody's pronunciation on this and I can't remember. We would say it as angles. Raja Hoffman perhaps, but it's not that. Sorry Mr. Hoffman, uh, to hear. Zackin and Deka from Paxton, India, respectively. Jacqueline Muang from Kenya and Rai Peterson from South Africa, Europe.

It's Mase and uh, Janine, Mueller-Weiland from Germany. Sorry, Mueller. Bk. I'm learning how to pronounce German names properly. Oceania, Bob Clarkston and Kelly Hudson from New Zealand. Ladies and gentlemen, this is why I remember this because when I saw the hockey stars and I saw that there was an FIH umpire and not just any FIH umpire, but, but Kelly Hudson on the panel, I was very excited cuz let's face it, uh, Kelly is out there on the pitch with these players currently and seeing them in action as much as other players are in many respects.

So I think the fact that they've included her in this panel is fantastic. And Ol fu Chique Mendoza from Argentina and Tracy Fuchs from USA in there. So one umpire, lots of coaches. Or several coaches, several players and former players and that sort of thing. So indeed, we now know who the experts are, ladies and gentlemen.

And then on the most recent episode that was just released on Monday,

if you've listened, this is the episode, the LST it, it gets personal awards. There was a conversation about training matches that the Netherlands had just played, and this is how good they are with their social media, that a training match had a full slate of social media marketing people out there with more than one camera getting footage, creating content that they are going to be repurposing all across the socials, which is awesome.

And it was noted by Joep de Mol that Coen van Bunge just voted as the FIH male umpire of the year was one of the umpires on the game, and that that helps them, you know, create a better game. After that compliment though, yo decided to follow it up with some comments about how most umpires are shit because they don't train.

And yo, hi. Oops, as I hit my mic. Hi. Here's the thing about umpire training, and I've talked about this on other episodes, so if I repeat myself too bad wait, it's around to the week. Here's the bomb.

Umpire training and player training are not the same thing. Just as much as player training and coaching training are not the same thing. Going out on the pitch and practicing putting your arm in the air and blowing your whistle for a foot, blowing your whistle for an obstruction is not training umpiring.

The things that we need the most are game specific competitive environments because the hardest thing for us to do and the thing that we need, need the most experience at is competition. Managing players in competitive environments where they are breaking down play when they're dissenting, when they are.

To get the best of their opponents with five meter manipulations with all variety of things and the number of times. So what, when I went through my phase and I went over to England and I was there for the better part of six seasons because I was striving to get to the, the very top level of the fih. I went to many training situations.

I went out to training every Wednesday, or not Wednesday, that was match day. But all the other days I would go up to in Durham University. I didn't have anything else to do during the day. And I would go and I would attend trainings and I would bring my whistle, 95%, maybe 98% of what happened was not anything that could make me better.

I couldn't practice my positioning, I couldn't practice my management. Either in administering penalties or how I spoke to players, how I presented my body, because the tensions of the competitive situation were not there. So Yelp, what we do in this world is we do things like this. We do things like breakdown video.

We do things like go into the FH FHumpires Discord server, uh, and I miss it. Did you know we have a discord server, FH FHumpires dot com slash ds, and we discuss, we debate, we try out language, we create remedies. Those are the things that we need to do to train, in addition to our physical preparation, doing mental preparation of psychological practices and things like that.

Just because we're not out on the pitch for two hours every day, running around and putting our arms in the air doesn't mean that we don't train. And that my friends, is the LST referral. Let's see what y'all have to say on all this. Let's see. Um,

there you go. I'm still, I'm still waiting cuz somebody may contest this poll. And the media's 20%. Yeah, I believe it is too. There you go. That's so cute. You two voting for each other. Oh my God, that's so great. I love him. I look, I'm, what I love is that he is unabashedly himself and you know that he doesn't take himself that seriously.

So we're not gonna take him that seriously either. But there is some real nugget of truth there as to how players conceive of what we do on the pitch. And he's absolutely right. There are a lot of shit on fires out there who don't do any of this training. That is none of you because you are here for an hour and a half listening to me, proud on and put up graphics on a screen.

Every Wednesday, you're in the server talking to each other, supporting each other. You are reading the rule book on your own. You are watching matches with me and doing development activities. You are the people who are elevating umpiring and you're training your asses off, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm very proud of that.

And the results are there. The results are speak for themselves. So I think that's, well, that's that. How about the standard shirt is a female fit for the 300 plus. Men, 400 plus women. Interesting. Yes, you can, you can Steffan, you can find them on Twitter. Uh, but Instagram is the biggest one and I've noticed that, um, Brendan often posts things and asks for people's input and their creativity and things like that.

So that's a, uh, that's why I put the Instagram tag up there. And you just need to search. Let's stick together on, um, apple Podcasts, overcast Spotify. I guess it'll be in your centralized RSS podcast feeds. So there you go. Cracking point. And there is the rant. I've been swearing a little more this, this time.

I hope that's okay. And you're getting what you need more. Thank you. Did you know about this? Did you know? I don't think they knew. Thank you, Dina. Appreciate that. There we go. Everybody's tripping in. We're. And you are on the server. Yeah, I know that. I'm glad. It really does. It really does, because you're absolutely right, Jeanette.

We don't distinguish between what we rehearse by visualizing and what actually we physically perform. So when we are discussing these things, we are visualizing, we are going through our head of what we've seen. And that's why for me, watching video is so crucial because you don't have to visualize something that might be a little different or off track or get creative about it.

Or remember something happened to you two years ago, you're seeing something and now you're experie. And let me tell you, I don't know if you've heard about this thing called the Metaverse, and I know it sounds ridiculous. And Mark Zuckerberg walking around with a really bad graphical representation of himself, you know, shopping.

Nobody wants that. But what we do want friends is we want the ability to umpire matches in the metaverse so we can practice these things. We have a match going on and players are getting mad at each other and they're getting mad at you and they're breaking down that play and they're doing that thing and then they're being cool over there and then they make this amazing play.

And then you're caught out of position and, and this is what I am looking forward to in the future. And I hope that it happens. I'm sure it's gonna happen fast enough that I'm gonna be around for it and I can't wait for it cuz it's gonna be amazing. And that is Achille hour of training. There you go.

What is this mission critical? I'm so glad you asked Ribhu. Okay, let me, let me just get over here. Here it is. It's a workshop Ribhu, you just go to fhumpires.com/mcp, it is a self-paced course where you will watch a number of videos that I break up into very sensical and logical sections where I teach you the basics of what is the standard positioning now to excel at umpiring in the modern day and age.

So I'm, I'm willing to, to go out on limb now. For a few years I've been kind of like, well, this is kind of the thing coming. If you're not on the mission critical positioning bandwagon by now, it's time to do it because we. . The, the, again, the evidence speaks for itself. It works. And the umpires who are doing it at the top level are getting better results.

The umpires who are doing it throughout the M P a, for example in England, and they're doing it in their level twos and they're doing it in their level ones and people who are doing it all over the world are seeing the result of how incredibly more accurate you can be, where it matters the most. So if you're interested, review, please go have a look.

If you're not sure if you wanna talk about it more, you wanna talk to some people who have done the course, um, but done it in the live format, pop into the server and ask some questions cuz I'd like to talk about it. All the graphics just not necessarily in the right order. There you go. Good to see you Steffan.

And say hi to Bentley and we will see you next week. And there you are. And thank you so much. I'm surprised Godders isn't here because he's done it twice and he. The fact that he did it twice is just, it means so much to me, but I love it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, propel. I'm so glad to see you and I agree it is going to be awesome when it's released on November 15th.

So there you are. That is our what up Wednesday and it was a good time today. Um, I got to eight. So let's see if I can improve. Let's, we're just going for most improved umpire and umpire Live streamer, that's, that's the title we're going for. We will see you next week. We will see you right here in the Discord server.

Free to join. Free to join. Come on back. Thanks for joining in. Enjoy your hockey week. Bye everybody.

#thirdteam #fieldhockey #hockey #umpire #umpiring #FIH #FIHumpires #umpirelife #hockeyumpiretips #hockeyumpiringvideos #fieldhockeyumpiringvideos #hockeyedumpiring #hockeyumpiringrules